Mystery Knife - Joseph Rodgers & Sons.

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Shangas, Jul 19, 2016.

  1. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I picked this up at a local thrift-shop on the way home from town, while sheltering from the rain.

    It is steel-bladed, and ivory-handled. And comes with its original sheath.

    It is marked on the blade: "JOSEPH RODGERS & SONS".

    It is marked on the hilt: "G.R". / "J. RODGERS & SONS" / "6 NORFOLK ST" / SHEFFIELD ENGLAND.

    Now, I know that Joseph Rodgers & Sons is one of England's oldest cutlery manufacturers, trading since the early 1700s.

    I know that it moved into its Norfolk St. premises in around 1780.

    I know that it started providing cutlery to the Royal Family in 1821.

    The knife, being marked "G.R." would mean Georgius Regina ("George Reigns"). I take that to be George IV. Which means the knife dates from 1821-1830.

    Does anyone recognise WHAT this knife would've been used for? I know that J.R. & Sons made knives for all kinds of applications, but I've never seen one like this before. I thought perhaps it might've been broken, but it doesn't appear to be.

    Any help is appreciated!! Are there any antique knife/blade/cutlery aficionados in the house??

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    Last edited: Jul 19, 2016
  2. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    It's a scalpel, possibly from a military field surgeon's kit, so probably WW1 period. I'd not altogether rule out an earlier George, medical instruments did not change a lot over the century, but later is far more probable.

    That's Georgius Regina. "George Reigns".


    George Rex, Regina has a vagina.
     
  3. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Oh sorry. I guess my Latin isn't as good as I thought it was! LOL!

    But would it be George IV, or George V? I can't imagine a WWI-era medical kit having an ivory handle. Or would it? It sounds like something more old-fashioned.
     
  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Ivory could be sterilsed with practically anything including a naked flame. The alternatives available in the early 20th C. could not.
     
  5. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I searched the mark up online and other sources say 19th century. That being the case, I think it's George IV.
     
  6. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    Joseph Rodgers & Sons also made sewing needles and I have a little box with their name on it.

    I have been trying to find some needle packets made by this manufacturer to put in the box but so far no luck.
     
  7. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I can't imagine that needle packets are easily found.
     
  8. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    There are lots of them here in the UK at antiques fairs and centres but I haven't found any J Rodgers ones yet.
     
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  9. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Oh I know there are loads of them (I've found dozens of SINGER ones for when I've been restoring sewing machines), but I meant that J Rodgers ones must be HARD to find. I mean the company hasn't been around since...what...the 1980s? And who knows when it last produced sewing needles.
     
  10. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    I see what you mean, What is really annoying is that I had one and seem to have lost it, I've searched everywhere.

    What makes it doubly annoying is that I found the little antique box with his name on it and they would have been perfect together :(
     
  11. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I've done a bit more research and I think the knife is indeed George V. I've read enough evidence from various sources to convince me.
     
  12. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Its either George V 1910-1936 or George VI 1937-1952

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  13. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Just a thought, with this having a short blade it could be an ink eraser.
     
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  14. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    It's not an ink-eraser. I've seen LOADS of those. I've been collecting antique writing equipment for 10 years. The blade would be the wrong shape for it.
     
  15. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    The answer has been found!

    It's a gardener's budding knife! :)
     
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