This is really something or not !

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  1. Hesam Esmaili

    Hesam Esmaili New Member

    I found this in a really old house apparently was built in 1800, nobody knows exactly thou, in Los Angeles, It was hidden inside the attic , have no Idea what it is but it looks really old, I think it is Japaneses because of the red sun, and it should be a tea table or dinner table because it is really low.

    Please help me Identify it.
     

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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The design looks Chinese to me, but I have no idea where the table was made. Those mountains sticking out of the ocean are in Vietnamese territory, but the table doesn't look like it's from Viet Nam.
     
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  3. Hesam Esmaili

    Hesam Esmaili New Member

    Is it an ocean or clouds? it seams similar to cloud up there next to the storks? are they even stork?
     
  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Those are cranes which I normally associate with Japan. A symbol of longevity. But the "mountains" do look more Chinese ones to me, as well.
     
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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    If those are clouds and not mountains, they're Chinese for certain. Southern China has mountains like that. Japan doesn't.
     
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  6. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Could you get some close-ups with sharp focus of the decoration on the table top?

    Is it carved and painted? Or is it applied enamel?

    The birds would be cranes, I'd think.
     
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  7. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Just to make sure we're talking about the same things - the "mountains" are greenish, upright and are placed "above" the more horizontal, whitish, swirls (which are the clouds.) Right?

    If you zoom in on the straight-on view picture, it seems that the "mountains" have trees? growing on them.

    The more I look at the design, the more things I see that point to Chinese work. Do keep in mind, though, that the Japanese are known to produce things using Chinese motifs.

    I'm not seeing a "very old thing" here. Yes, it does have wear to the visible surface, but more pictures (underside, construction details, the bottoms of the feet, etc.) would be useful.

    And forget about trying to associate the age of the building in which it was found with the age of the contents.
     
  8. Hesam Esmaili

    Hesam Esmaili New Member

    So I dont know the technique name, but everything is salient , if that is a right word, meaning you can touch all the edges with your hand
     
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  9. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I think its a newer piece , maybe 60s - 80s , and I bet it would have had a glass top at one point , otherwise how would you use it ?
     
  10. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    I have some Chinese carved items which feature Cranes.
     
  11. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    Chinese cranes-
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  12. Hesam Esmaili

    Hesam Esmaili New Member

    Thank you everybody, so apparently their is a big fight between china and japan to who owns these beautiful creatures, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-crowned_crane the only thing that is throwing me off is the red sun other than that I would say this is chines? why the red sun?
     
  13. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    Aha!! This Japanese painting has cranes and a red sun - lotsa luck deciding :)

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  14. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    Another Japanese crane painting with red sun:

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  15. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Forgive my off-the-subject-ness, but... that's a cute little pet plastic raptor you have there, Hesam!
     
  16. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I think it's Korean. The following pic is a quick photo showing a detail of a ten-fold screen from a book I have on Korean art:
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    Your table shows only the upper portion of a scene depicting ten longevity symbols, so all the symbols aren't present. You have red sun, auspicious clouds, immortal cranes... against a golden sky... and rocks, mountains and pines.
     
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