Asian Tiger Painting Scroll

Discussion in 'Art' started by kardinalisimo, Jun 17, 2016.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    I doubt it is by important artist and looks like more on the recent side but just in case the Asian speaking members can give an opinion.
    Thanks
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  2. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

  3. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    The passage from Mr. Spring's site says "The tiger traditional Chinese painting came down from the mountain tiger king style town shop treasure beasts four feet banners" implies to me that there are lots of similar and identical examples. I did some searches for words in that passage and found MANY similar and identicals, but they were all in Chinese and a couple in French, so I wasn't able to learn much more.
    If you'd like to have a go at it, here is a laundry list. :)
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?...&thid=OIP.M5d46c3a17240839bb082eaea3e01412do0
     
  4. khl889

    khl889 Well-Known Member

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  5. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Not sure what is spray painting. I guess maybe something not done with a brush but using stencils and spraying over? I am not sure what I have, will take close-up pictures tomorrow.
    I don't understand how are there so many identical ones? With different inscriptions and stamps. Maybe there is an antique original that they are made after by different artists?

    Here is one by artist Xiao Ding, sold for $545, much more than the aliexpress examples
    http://www.the-gallery-of-china.com/chinese-tiger-painting-11.html

    And the same one by Wu Tong
    https://khanhhoathuynga.wordpress.c...-brush-painting/chinese-tiger-painting-t5828/
     
  6. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    "How there so many identical ones?" A relatively inexpensive silk-screen process could turn out hundreds a day with a few people working on it. Whenever a souvenir or novelty item starts selling well, vendors order more and the factories order materials and get to work. Supply and demand. Depending on where they are made, copyright laws may or may not apply. If they come from Taiwan, that country doesn't enforce copyright laws like most other countries do, unless things have changed recently. But I don't know much about art-wait for smarter folks to comment.
     
  7. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    So they are somewhat prints rather hand painted? Why the different artist names, so they look more authentic?
    That Xiao Ding is supposed to be hand painted.
     
  8. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Now I've looked around their website a bit and see that the gallery says they are real paintings. It seems tiger paintings sell well so they have many in stock, both different tiger scenes and some with same scene as yours just a different artist. That particular one you have may well have come from one of the artists whose works they sell. Another page has bios on their artists. Here's their tiger gallery. http://www.the-gallery-of-china.com/chinese-tiger-painting.html

    The Xiao Ding is listed as sold, so maybe he has retired or he's painting another copy of tiger by waterfall? If you email the gallery and tell them you wanted that xiao-Ding tiger one that sold, I'm guessing they'll come up with another.
     
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  9. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    I still think something is fishy. Same painting by different artists done with brushes that look identical. Maybe they are very well trained re-producers.
     
  10. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Just my opinion, but to me, the tiger doesn't look "anchored" to the painting......he kind of looks "laid onto" it......if that makes sense.........same thing in the other paintings on the other sites showing the exact same tiger........I still think it's very nice though!
     
  11. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Can't tell for sure if hand painted or not.
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  12. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Aha! I'm still an art ignoramus but here's a possibility based on how the colors slop over the dark lines. Basic black image was printed on the cloth by whatever means then someone brushed, airbrushed whatever the different colors over the black outline. Then the seller can honestly say it was hand-painted, even if only partially so. The 3rd image above here is revealing.
     
  13. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    For one clue to paintings from same vendor as I linked above, look at another of his offerings: http://www.the-gallery-of-china.com/chinese-tiger-painting-12.html

    Look at lower left-looks like a faint extra leg, and a yellow partial paw appears at the end of the left rear leg. Huh? Then part of a mouth appears at the far right corner by itself, somehow separated from the rest of the mouth on the nearby animal. Yes I'd say something odd is going on.
     
  14. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Also, what is the definition of original art. If exactly the same image appears to have been done by different artists, I would not call it original. So, all these scrolles maybe involve human hands but as you said some kind of printing/transfer for the outlining was used.
     
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