Amber cordials with twist stem - bowl shape?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Ladybranch, May 24, 2016.

  1. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    I have 6 cordials that were my mother's. I don't know when or where she got them, but do know she had to have bought them before 1980. She only had these 6. They have amber bowls and bases, clear twist stems, and stand 6 1/8". A couple of them had "flea bites" on rim that I had ground away making them a bit shorter than the rest. I haven't been able to ID the maker in over 10 years of trying and doubt anyone can at this stage.

    Anyways, my question is in describing the bowls. I have seen this shape called tulip and flared. Neither one seems to fit. What shape bowl would y'all call it? Of course if someone recognizes them, I certainly would be delighted to know the maker!

    BTW, they are cordials rather than sherry glasses, right? Wouldn't a sherry have a narrower brim to "enhance the aroma?"

    TIA.

    --- Susan

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  2. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    Capacity is a factor as cordials would be 2oz or less. I have seen that stem before but can only suggest time with Replacements stem book.
     
  3. Ezlisting

    Ezlisting Member

    Those are going to be hard to find. The only one that comes to my mind is Sasaki.
     
  4. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    A sherry bowl is generally trumpet shaped, as opposed to your bowls. Manufacturers didn't use shape names for bowls, just for the entire stem line and they were usually "pretty" names, not descriptive.

    Individual pieces were Water, Claret, wine ice tea, cocktail, sherry, cordial. Use, instead of descriptive.
     
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  5. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Hmmm..... if 2 oz is the capacity of a cordial then these "ain't" them. These hold 5 oz to the very top of the rim and about 3 oz to where the round bowl curves in before the rims flare out. I should have thought about capacity for I do have a set of Gorham sterling cordial cups with round tray. They are quite a bit smaller than these. Thank you George for calling my attention to capacity! Now to decide what to call them. I guess just wines or clarets.

    Thank you for the suggestion. I went on over to replacements.com for a look see at Sasaki patterns. 2 are close, but no cigar.

    Their "Coronation" pattern comes in an amber, citron, cobalt, greens, etc... but the base/foot of that pattern is clear in all the colors. Also the top of rim doesn't seem to flare out as far as these stems. The stem of that pattern closes in height to these is the water goblet that stands at 6 1/2" The bowls on these stems just don't look big enough to qualify as water goblets.
    http://www.replacements.com/crystal/sas.htm

    The other pattern is "Hawthorne." It comes in several colors, but all of them have a clear base/foot. Also the bowls don't look as round as mine and not sure if the rims flare out as much??
    http://www.replacements.com/crystal/sas02.htm

    Thank you for that info! After seeing George's reply on the capacity of cordials, what in the world are these!!

    --- Susan
     
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  6. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Not Sasaki - appears the stems twist in the opposite direction than yours.

    I had some glasses with a similar stem and flair. If I remember correctly they were Czechoslovakian.
     
  7. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Geeee, I certainly was having a senior moment for never paid any attention to the direction of the twist/swirl when comparing to Sasaki!

    Czech, now that is worth looking into!!! Thank you, Pat, for sharing that info and pointing out the twist direction. Now I wish I had a reference online or offline for Czech stemware. Through the years have done multiple twist stem searches on replacements.com and on Chataboutdg's Glass Etch website.

    --- Susan
     
  8. enow321

    enow321 New Member

    Hi Susan!

    I have one glass identical to yours that I found at a thrift and have been trying to identify. The furthest I have gotten so far is similar glass by Bohemia (Czech) but with clear base. Mine has an amber base like yours. I was wondering if you had identified yours yet???

    ---Maya
     
  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Hello, Maya. Unfortunately LADYBRANCH is no longer with us on this side of heaven so I don't think she will be able to answer your question. :(
     
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  10. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    @enow321 Sorry to inform you, but Ladybranch passed away in 2017. (this thread was from 2016)
     
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  11. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    Sniped by Bakersgma.
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that's just a sad turn of events.......
     
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