Help with Delft sconce

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by blackbird939, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. blackbird939

    blackbird939 New Member

    Hello forum, new here. My mother recently passed away (Dec 20th). My mom's uncle always had this sconce, which was purported to be 'good'. I guess that meant it was not a copy, relatively old and therefore had some significant value. My mom got it when he passed away in 2005. It has been in her living room ever since. Now, it's come down to me. After hours of research, it appears to be a hand-painted, late 19th century Porceleyne Fles Royal Delft sconce/candle holder. I looked very closely for a dot-transfer pattern, but it really does appear to be hand-painted under at least 5X magnification. There is a uniform crazing throughout, on both sides. All of the markings I could find are different to the format I see on this example. So, not really sure. The obverse appears very similar to others I've found which date from 1880-1900. Clearly taken from a painting by Salomon Ruysdael. However, there is nothing impressed into the reverse, as I have seen in others. In any case, they seem common enough to not really be worth too terribly much, but I promised her I'd to the research and keep it in the family. So... can anyone tell me what I have here?
     

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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    sorry for your loss !!! :(
     
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    It's hand painted for sure and very nice quality.
     
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  5. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Hi Blackbird!

    Welcome to Antiquers.......

    My condolences on the loss of your mother.
     
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  6. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    I wonder if this was painted by Jacob Ruysdael?
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome, blackbird. Sorry for your loss.

    It is beautiful and yes, genuine Delfts, made in 1883 in the town of Delft, the Netherlands. Nice quality.
    The manufacturer is 'De Porceleyne Fles', the best-known manufacturer of genuine Delfts. The company received the predicate 'koninklijke' or royal in 1919 and is now internationally known as Royal Delft.
    I seem to have lost my list of makers, but @say_it_slowly can probably tell you who the decorator was.

    The original painting is by Salomon van Ruysdael, a cousin of the more famous Jacob van Ruisdael. Same surname, different spelling.
    In Dutch the painting is called 'De Pleisterplaats', which means the resting place or inn. Although there is cattle in the foreground, there are an inn and coaches in the background, signs that it is a place to have a meal and a drink and stay the night if needed.

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  8. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Hi and welcome!

    You are correct in the factory that made your piece as being De Porceleyne Fles. Most of their pieces are date marked with a letter code though it isn't always in the same position on the mark. The "E" on the top right of yours I suspect is the date code for 1883.

    According to the book "Discovering Dutch Delftware" the painter would appear to be Leon Senf who worked at the factory from about 1878-1930. The asterisk next to his name means he was a master designer who trained for 13 years.

    Often these paintings are copied from famous painting and are indicated by "naar" followed by the name of the original painter. I also suspect the small letter that could be "n" followed by S V Ruysdael means after a painting by Van Ruysdael.
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  9. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    LOL AJ:) I was editing the photo and was too slow:D
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, the n is short for 'naar', which means after (when referring to art).
    :joyful:
     
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  11. blackbird939

    blackbird939 New Member

    Thank you all for the condolences and excellent information. Amazing how quick we can now gather information about a piece our family has had for decades. It was always a mystery. Would it be worth a small fortune? Was it genuine? Plans had been made to take to a roadshow next time they came through here (Winter Park FL). Wish I knew how my great uncle came to own it. That story now lost to history.

    Yes, my mother's loss was enormous to our family. She was a matriarchal figure who kept the extended family and its traditions alive. She was only 70. Cancer took yet another good soul. I see it as a loss to the whole world, as it was a better place with her in it.

    As I now have to handle her estate/affairs, I think I will place a value of $800? I've seen some retail art houses listing similar items for 4900E, but I think that's very optimistic. I wouldn't sell it, but the value is important. Just curious, does anyone know what the small '6.' is under Leon's name?

    Again, many thanks. Always love forums. The best of humanity always here. This is what the internet was supposed to be :)
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    There is no other Forum , like this Forum !
    We are always at our best !
    Price it however you see fit....but maybe some added research would be in order...
    good luck !!
     
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