Featured Fenton Cranberry Hobnail Vase ?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by KikoBlueEyes, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I was walking passed a pile of things that someone had left out to be picked up by the trash collectors and spotted this little vase (4 3/4 inches high) on the top of some old teapots. I picked the vase up out of curiosity because it had two colors and a ruffled edge. I couldn't scratch off the color, so I took it home to look at it more closely. It appears that the white glass has been layered on top the cranberry glass. The bottom is smooth and slightly indented, but the edge was not polished. I started to look for white and pink hobnail vases and up popped several that were attributed to Fenton, and that looked similar to the one I found. There seems to be many variations though. (I'll put some I found at the bottom of this post for comparison.) So the question is did I happen upon a Fenton Cranberry Hobnail Vase or some wannabe look alike?

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    For comparison, here are some that have been called Fenton Cranberry Hobnail Vases

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  2. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Collector

    Looks like it -- nice find! Sometimes the oval shaped Fenton marks on the bottoms of pieces are very faint.
     
  3. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I'll look more carefully. Thanks.
     
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  4. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

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  5. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Cranberry Opalescent Hobnail, the white is not a layer of glass, they reheated the piece after it was made and parts of the glass went white :)
     
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  6. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    I have Fenton, that all it has is the sticker with serial number on it.
     
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  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Wow. Thanks so much for sharing your catalogs. You don't know how much I appreciate your confirming this vase as Fenton and taking the time to look up the citations. I realize as I look at the pages, that I have been seeing some Fenton over the years and didn't know what it was. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
     
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  8. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Marie. What a fascinating piece of information. I was wondering how they got the white color so nicely on top. I just assumed they overlaid it somehow. I had seen the word "Opalescent" during my research but I just ascribed this to exuberant marketing by some sellers. This is so exciting. Thank you for sharing these bits of knowledge. I'm always eager to learn and now you have given me more tools. Kiko
     
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  9. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    Opalescence is made possible by adding bone ash to the glass. Some chemical in that , when the glass, fresh from the mold, subject to a blast of cold air condenses out of solution and turns white. If the glass is red, it shows a pink, if the glass is blue, blue, green, green, etc. Amber glass turns muddy so it isn't often done. It was successful in Indiana (National) Tumbler and Goblet's Holly Amber.
     
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  10. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    So this may be a case of a sticker lost long ago. Thank you. I looked more carefully this morning based on @Joe2007's comment, but there are some residual mineral deposits on the inside (we have very hard water here), so I couldn't see anything yet. I read one post from the net, where the seller said there piece was from the 50's and was therefore, not marked. Thank you.
     
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  11. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Wonderful! Wonderful! Wonderful! I had to look at some examples of this Indiana piece. I can see how they must have gotten the right formula to make their amber glass work, while other did not. I take it this is true for all these kinds of transformations in this type of glass?
     
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  12. Brazos

    Brazos Active Member

    It looks like a crack on the bottom. That may be why it was trashed. Even if so, it makes a nice display piece. If you enjoy it, the crack would not matter.
     
  13. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    No crack. Just a line. It holds water fine. It was quite dirty when I found it, and I cleaned it up a little before I asked about it. I will have to work on it some more now that it is a keeper.
     
  14. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    Very nice. I have a similar one in blue.
    Great find for free.
     
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  15. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    That's a good part, I agree. The learning part is always the best for me. I take nothing for granted that I get from the Internet, and since it has no mark or sticker, I will have to clean it up and study the Fenton Marks. I think I see a small oval, but that could be my imagination.
     
  16. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    Mine has no mark on it. Back on the ebay boards someone confirmed it was Fenton. But mine is a slightly different shape and color--mine is light blue.
    It has some shmutz inside the bottom that I could not get off.
    I keep on my vanity since my bedroom is blue.
     
  17. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thank you for this. When the color didn't come off as I scraped it (in my field test :)) I figured it was at least not a cheap knockoff). From what I gather there are variations in the shapes, sizes and colors probably because it is hand made. I think blue would be lovely in this. I'll tell you if I get the shmutz off. :):):)
     
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  18. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Fenton started making ovals on the bottom in 1972. They were stamped with a 7 for 1970s 8 for 1980s and 9 for 1990s etc.
    greg
     
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  19. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    These may have been made in a mold, but the were hand finished, no two exactly alike.
     
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  20. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for this information. Here's what's in my oval (I think) Does it look like the 8 you would expect. I can try again with more light if not

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