Odd clay eagle or bird necklace, NA?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by tyeldom3, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    I don't think this is that old or valuable, but I would just like to know what it is, or its meaning?
    The bird/eagle/toucan? looks to be made of clay terracotta and painted black. The wings are movable. What is it? Was found at a sale with lots of Native American items, but I have no idea if this is NA.
    Thanks for your time.
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  2. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    I've never seen anything like it.
    Can't wait to see what our experts make of it.
    If it's anything close to life-like, it's a toucan.
     
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  3. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    LOOK OUT!!!
    Gila's gonna be after THAT! ;)
     
  4. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    There she is..... :)
     
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  5. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    And if it's not too close to life-like, it could be an eagle. :)

    I see that tyeldom guessed both of those in the original post!
     
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  6. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Y'all make me laugh....it's a Tougle:D
     
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  7. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Behold, a new species...
    Eaglus Toucanii. Subspecies Blackola.
     
  8. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Or an Eacan. :)
     
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  9. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Ah, yes... those are the (not binomial nomenclature) Common Names!

    EDIT
    I knew that course in biology would pay off someday.
     
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  10. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    This may be neither here nor there, butttttt...
    I have no idea if they teach this in art classes (I never had one) but this maker uses almost the same technique I do to shape feathers on tiny pieces like the little dove ornaments I make, which I think are similar in size to this bird. I take a flat pointy stick or implement... the fingernail-cleaner thingie on nail clippers is a good size... and start at the bottom of the wing, moving in rows upward. It gives a nice layered, feathery look to tiny figurines.
    This maker, however, started at the top and moved bottomward, and wasn't quite as systematic, which isn't quite as good as starting at the bottom.
    Anyway...a funny coincidence, I thought.
     
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  11. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I thought a crow , hes really kinda cool .
     
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  12. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    My order of preference would be... toucan, raven, crow, eagle. Given the likely location of its origin (presuming US/Southwest), raven/crow moves up the list, actually.

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  13. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Hey, Tye, I sent you a message...
     
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  14. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    And the wires are part of it?
    Some kind of bird with a long tail, like the Australian lyre-bird?
    Or do the wires represent feet?
     
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  15. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Fakesie, I think she's figuring it was SW USA, since it was found in a lot of that stuff. So if that's true, I'm moving towards raven the more I think about it. They're revered birds and popular subjects for art...

    EDIT
    I don't know what to make of the wires, so I ignored them. :hilarious:
    If it were mine, and not determined to be of historical or ethnic value, I'd probably cut them off. The bird is cute as heck.
     
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  16. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Yes I have no idea about the wires. Maybe there was once a tail but I'm not sure. Thanks everyone for your input!:cat:
     
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  17. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Gila, this little birdie has his bags packed & would like to take a trip to your house!
    I decided not to list him, cause he wants to live with you!
    Message me your address and he'll be on his way.:)
     
  18. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Are you serious???????
    OMG, THANK YOU!!!!!!
    I've been coveting him ferociously!
    Here comes my address!
    Got PayPal? Let me give you postage!
     
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  19. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Just as an aside, I have grown disenchanted with attributions based on what stuff is found with, or where the collector is known to have traveled.

    Just as an example, I've found that a person who likes NW Coast Native masks and has a lot of them may also have bought a few fakes along the way, or may have bought a Japanese mask just because he liked it. Or he may have known some of the items were non-native, and liked them anyway - but his heirs often don't know that.
    People who traveled a lot in the American SW may also have visited Australia once....
    This just doesn't speak to me of any type of Native American item that I've seen.
    I could imagine the wires being straightened into a long lyre-shaped tail though. But really, if one likes it and finds it cute, that is great, regardless of where it comes from. I wish I could shed some light on the origin, but I really can't.
     
  20. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    I'm happy to say that I was completely enchanted with the bird from the start... intended to follow it and purchase it if I could... which Tye knew...
    For some reason, I think it's just delightful, and I will keep researching it after I get it.
    You're completely right, Fakesie... I'm learning here that assuming ANYTHING means possibilities unexplored.
    Come to mama, little birdie!
     
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