EAPG? kerosene lamp - is there a pattern name for this lamp?

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  1. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Hoping there might be a pattern name to use for this lamp.

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    Thanks for any & all advice or opinions!! :kiss::kiss:

    Peggy
     
  2. yourturntoloveit

    yourturntoloveit Well-Known Member

    Ohhhhh, that is a very pretty lamp. ;)
     
  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I'd say EAPG time period. Early 1900s.
    That burner is kinda funky lookin'
     
  4. Jen and George

    Jen and George Well-Known Member

    I looked through a couple of my lamp books and didn't see it. I don't have Thuro III. The burner looks like one I have that has been identified as German.
     
  5. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    I had hoped one of the glass folks could have ID'ed this pattern. Like Jen... I also have looked through all my lamp books (all 3 of Thuro's) and catalogs with no luck spotting this lamp. I do agree with Clutter... in dating it to early 1900s because it seems to have an Ebling collar. Thuro's Oil Lamps, p. 40, says about these collars:

    "... third one (c), without date or design were common to 1910 and probably later. These are described in an advertisement by Dalzell, Gilmore and Leighton Co. of Findlay, Ohio, as 'Patent, Improved, Shrunk-on Collars' and claimed "No Plaster, No Cement, No Leaky Lamps, No Weak Lamps, No Complaints.' In Findlay Pattern Glass, by Don Smith, this collar is said to have been patented by Philip Ebling of the Dalzell, Gilmore and Leighton company, Findlay, Ohio, and first used in May 1894."

    As to the burner, that certainly is different - weird. The bottom half of it appears to be a 6 prong burner and the top half seems to have a cylinder holder for a circular wick like a type of a central draft burner, but that font is not for a central draft lamp. I'm not sure what kind of burner it is, but like Jen... it could be German??? It might help to ID the burner better if there was a close-up pic of just the burner. Are there any markings on the thumbwheel / wick winder?

    --- Susan
     
  6. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Thanks to everyone for your advice & opinions!!! :kiss::kiss::kiss:

    The burner is marked Eagle & the knob is marked P&A Mfg. Co.

    The screen part fits over the newer looking brass "tube" & was likely added at a later date to the burner by the original owner. I sold a ton of old lamp parts a few years back & know from experience the buyers sometimes look for these type removable pieces.

    I did think it was a different way to attach the burner. Most I have seen screw on another piece, but this one sort of snaps directly onto a raised section of the glass.

    Peggy
     
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  7. Jen and George

    Jen and George Well-Known Member

    Wow, interesting that it's an Eagle by P & A. I have lots of Eagles and none like that. Could you do some closeups of it so I can "borrow" your pictures for my file?
     
  8. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Jen..., between you, me and the fence post, I believe this burner has been jerry rigged. Note the different in the brass patina. The pronged bottom (Queen Anne 4 prong burner) part has a darker patina while the top part is brighter. I suspect the cover over the pronged eagle burner got damaged and someone pushed that top part down into the eagle burner? Anyway, oil lamp burners are usually useless in dating lamps for over 80% of them are not original to the lamps, especialy P&A burners for they are still being made today.

    --- Susan
     
  9. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I will post some photos tomorrow, but like I said earlier, I think the original owner added this portion. It just slips on & off.

    Peggy
     
  10. Jen and George

    Jen and George Well-Known Member

    I think you are right about the burner.
     
  11. Jen and George

    Jen and George Well-Known Member

    Does it appear that it really works?
     
  12. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Sorry it took me so long to get these posted. :shame:

    Does it appear that it really works?

    If you mean does the wick move up & down, yes it does without any problems. It is basically just moving through an open tube.

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    Peggy
     
  13. Puffy1971

    Puffy1971 Member

    Hi. Did you ever find out any info on this oil lamp? I have one that has the same flower/leaves decoration on the foot but my font doesn't have any decoration on it. It does have the ebling collar but no burner. It must have belonged to my ggrandmother.
     
  14. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

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  15. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I don't remember ever finding out anything more about the lamp & sold it back in 2016 for $9.50.

    I will tell you there are a couple of members here that can name almost any EAPG pattern. So if there was a pattern name I feel certain they would have been able to help me.
     
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  16. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    While the lamp design may have a name, it's not part of a 'pattern' of pressed glass. Most lamps are not so associated. The majority of oil lamps were made in families, there were 5 to 8 differing sizes in each family.
     
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  17. Brazos

    Brazos Active Member

    If my memory is correct (BIG IF), Thuro called that lamp "Pickard". Don't take that to the bank. The burner is not correct. It looks like part of a center draft burner that someone has stuffed on a common Eagle burner.
     
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  18. Puffy1971

    Puffy1971 Member

    I wish mine had the burner still attached...only have the original collar which I had to do a really good cleaning on yesterday. I do plan on ordering a new burner so I can use this pretty thing. I'm guessing it belonged to my ggrandmother according to what others above was dating it. Here's a picture of mine... IMG_2568.jpg
     
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