Porcelain things that look like huge insulators

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Mill Cove Treasures, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    My neighbor gave me these a few years ago. We posted them on the ebay boards back then and, I contacted some insulator collector websites. Nobody was able to identify what these are. One of the collector sites thought maybe these were from a foreign country.

    I think I have 6 or 8 but all are stored in the attic so I don't have the exact measurements. My old photographs shows them next to a Campbell's Soup can so that should give some reference as to size. Very heavy! The person who had owned them worked for Boston Edison and collected all things electric. Any idea what these are and/or how they were used? Thank you.

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  2. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    So... if the letters are an indication... they functioned with the small knobby ends on top... hanging? So tempting to me to imagine a lighting-like function...
     
  3. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    They look like incoming telegraph insulators to me, little oversized, but still...
     
  4. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

  5. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    To me, they're really pleasing shapes... just from a decorative point of view!
     
  6. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

  7. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Hey, Big Mak, I think you got it!
     
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  8. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Mill Cove,

    A typical insulator would only have the threaded insert that you see in your larger one. (Screw in a lag bolt or rod) What has me stumped is the piece screwed into the one on the left. I would say they fall into the insulator category but not in the sense most people think.

    The piece that is screwed in, the bolts that appear on the sides, do they happen to have holes in the middle of them?
     
  9. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

  10. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    I mean...
    OMMMMMMMMMHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhh!
     
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  11. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Mill Cove,

    Interesting link, I was just searching to see if yours are a Multipart insulator
     
  12. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    The letters on them are probably stamps of approval.
    It is not easy to make a porcelain insulator, even today. It has to be flawless
     
  13. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    This is so interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Flawless... wow.
     
  14. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Desperate - I just found one on the shelf inside the garage that did not make it into the attic. It's also filthy so the photo is dark, I didn't want to bring into the area where I take my photographs. It doesn't have all the bolts like the first one I pictured above. There are no holes in the bolts. It looks like the bolts screw down to tighten a wire in place. One of the bolts on this one looks like it has a split lock washer. [​IMG]
     
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  15. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Makanudo - that website link is Slovenian. The translation was a little garbled. It talked about the first insulators being made of wood and how they didn't work very well or, for very long. I think the rest is the progression of shapes and manufacturing.
     
  16. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Thank you for the pic and info. Ill keep pondering it.
     
  17. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    Heres a translation of the last paragraph from that page:
    "In the pioneer period telegraphy we have invested a lot of effort in isolating naked telegraph wires. As long it took to have invented an appropriate insulator. Trial used a tube of glass, porcelain, clay and gutta-percha. Insulators are fastened to the pole and wire wrapped around them. At the big humidity it was also such a deteriorated insulation. Thus, at the beginning of insulators covered with a canopy. The solution has proven to be bad, because on the isolators is bad weather coming by appearing and the sinks. Always harder it showed the need to make one part of the insulator completely protect against moisture. When the circumflex get the insulator is get the image of the bell.In 1852 they began to fasten the bell insulators on poles. These have not been practical, but they are well isolated bare conductors. From them he has developed a new insulator shape resembles a bell in the bell. They called it a double bell. During telegraph lines formed a large number of different insulators, which by design derived from a double bell. With time on them fooled dust, soot and dirt, especially along the railroad. So dirty insulators especially in bad weather causing drains. Therefore, they have occasionally washed and cleaned. Guides at the beginning of using a copper wire that was soft and is often torn. To improve the mechanical properties are starting to use hard copper alloy, copper, phosphorus, silicon and chromium. The Austro-Hungarian Administration of telephone wires is used silicon bronze. Since then copper was expensive, it has happened several times that people wire harvested and sold. Therefore, in some cases using a galvanized iron wire, which is less costly, but had poor conductivity."
     
  18. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Nothing to do with telagraphy. These sat on a power transformer. Old design that has not been used for some time. Very little value.
     
  19. Hozhed

    Hozhed Member

    Agree......thet are very large
     
  20. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    How were they held in place on high power lines?
     
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