Two Small Pocket Watches Help?

Ok, so both are marked with 2 Lion Passants. And what seems to be a small shield. And has 0.955. The other 0.935. Maker on one could be 'e j'. The other is 'f' somthing.

 

Typical late 19th, early 20thC. Swiss made, Swiss silver cased lady's fob watches, probably with cylinder escapements, both 935 silver.

 

Passant is on all fours

You have rampants

 

Those lions, if lions, are standing up in the Lion Rampant position rather than Lion Passant. At least the animal on the right certainly doesn't look like a lion. It has a long narrow muzzle and has pointed ears. It looks like a wolf type animal to me. I have included an edited image of the animals. I can't help you on maker. I think??? if this info is on the inside of the case it pertains only to the case and not necessarily to the maker of the watch, the movements??? No doubt someone with watch knowledge will come along with some help.

--- Susan

 

Welllll, while working on the pic, af and Terry came along with help.

--- Susan

 

They are the Bears of Berne.

The makers of the movements and cases are neither here nor there, just some blokes in a Swiss shed.

 

Thanks for the replies.

Do they have any value?

 

I can't speak for the US market, and working or not and the type of escapement are important, but best case is 'not very much value', topping out at about $50 apiece.

 

Thank you. I edited the post as you'd already answered previously.

 

Not just Berne (Bear), all Swiss-made (large articles) from 1882-1934. .875 and above purity...per Tardy - pg 395.

 

it seems impossible to cancel a reply. If I don't post it, it just reappears when I look at a thread. So this is a non post