ID mark on sterling ring, & other questions

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by tyeldom3, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    I'm really trying to learn about jewelry, so any help you can offer is more than welcome.:wacky:
    This ring is marked 925, and there is another mark which looks like a "C" with a shape of maybe a diamond next to it. I tried searching for something similar with no luck. I thought perhaps it might mean the diamonds are CZ or something?
    I just got a new diamond tester, and I've been playing around with it this morning, and I admit I really don't know what I'm doing, but the diamonds are testing as real, and also the blue stones are testing as diamond? What am I doing wrong?, I wouldn't have thought there would be real diamonds in a sterling setting..?
    Thanks for your thoughts.:kiss:
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  2. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    Sorry I can't help with most of your questions, but I can tell you that diamonds set in sterling are both common and popular these days. Most of the luxury fashion designers have been doing it for the past decade - yellow/rose gold is passe' in high fashion jewelry these days.
     
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  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    What type of diamond tester do you have? The heat dispersion type often has a row of lights on the side, these need to be set according to the size of the stone. Usually a poitive is very positive, if you have to 'force' it to beep, you probably do not have a diamond.
     
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  4. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much Mansons & Af:kiss:
    Here is a pic of the tester & a drawn image of that mark, because it's hard to get a good image of. (Pardon my terrible drawing, I'm a bad artist).
    I tried the settings on the tester at 2, 3, 4, 5, &6, and got the same strong result with all of them.?? I also tried a bunch of other jewelry with stones and diamonds, or faux diamonds, and they all seem to give the correct result., but I need to keep trying more jewelry to learn how to do this correctly.
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  5. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I have a tester just like that, and find it robust and reliable.
     
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  6. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thanks again Af. I've been playing around with it more, and it does indeed seem to be very reliable with the tests I'm doing. What I don't understand is why it's testing for diamond on the blue stones? I've also been testing a bunch of other gemstones, and it does not give positive for diamond on any of them......but I do not have any other blue stones for testing:( to see how this reacts to other blue stones.
     
  7. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Diamonds are sometimes blue.

    Since it is a fairly modern ring the stones could be synthetic. Very small diamonds can be pretty cheap wholesale to the jewellery trade.
     
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  8. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Af, you're a great help, and I appreciate it.:cat::chicken:
     
  9. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    I would have thought sapphires ????
     
  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Heat dispersion in sapphires differs from diamonds because the elements involved are different. The pure carbon of diamond has different properties from the aluminium oxide (corundum) that is sapphire. That's how testers of the type shown above distinguish between the diamond and other stones
     
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  11. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Ijust wondered if the diamond tester was calibrated??? BWDIK??? :bucktooth:;) Sapphire is my birthstone and thats why I thought sapphires ;)
     
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  12. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thanks all.:cat:
    I just went to my "go to" gal, down at the gold buying jewelry store. She' really nice, and I sell gold to her every now and then, and I brought her some today, in hopes she would tell me her thoughts on this ring. She's pretty confident that they are moissanite. But she didn't use her tester:(, she just looked through her loop.
    So, yes Af, synthetic they are. Thanks again:kiss:
     
  13. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Moissonite aint cheap. It generally sells better than diamond. Make sure you aren't touching the metal prongs when testing. On these testers, sapphire will go about 90% as high as diamond.
     
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  14. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    "Due in part to the similar thermal conductivity between moissanite and diamond, it is a popular target for scams; however, an electrical conductivity test (with a check for birefringence) should alert any buyer to fraud" (from Wikipedia)

    That's what fooled the diamond tester, since it works by thermal conductivity. Your experienced tester spotted the double refraction or birefringence.
     
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  15. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Make sure you aren't touching the metal prongs when testing.

    That model make a rapid bleeping noise if you touch the metal, it's very distinctive.

    The tester is very good for the older pieces of jewellery.
     
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  16. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thanks much Af & Terry.
    No, I'm not touching the metal...well I did a few times on some of the things I tested, but quickly realized the mistake.
    Yes Af, she said there was no need to use the tester, after she looked through her loop. She said they are moissanite.
    So now my next question...if I want to list the ring, how do I guarantee it's moissanite to a potential buyer? Would I have to have a jewelers appraisal? In which case would probably cost more than the rings worth., Or buy a moissanite tester? What would you do?:confused:
     
  17. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I'd list it according to the best of my knowledge and belief. In this case the evidence seems adequate to me. An air of quite confidence carries more weight than loads of explanations.
     
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  18. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    Take it to a jeweler.
     
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  19. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Thank you Af & Marko.
    You all are a great help.:cat:
     
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