Golden box identification

Hellow, please help me to identify marks and costof this golden box, thanks.

 

Try resizing your pictures to about 1000 pixels across, saving them, then using the board 'upload a file' function. (beside 'Post Reply') Select full image.

I cannot see any marks in your detail pictures. Except the last one which seems to have just appeared. Cropping that to just the marks would reduce the file size.

 

Welcome to the forum! It is a lovely box.

As afantiques said, it would be a big help to those who might have help for you if your pics were resized so they could actually appear here in a message rather than having to click on links and trying to make them comfortably view-able. For me yours pics are either too small or way to big when clicked to view on my iPad. Also many people will not click on links. I myself am apprehensive to click on unknown links.

I have taken the liberty of resizing your pics so that they can appear in this thread. All your pics were dimension-wise in size 3264px wide X 2448px height. Their size weight-wise ranged from 849.85 KB + 870.244 bytes, 1.20 MB = 1,259.045 bytes to 1.88 MB = 1,972,403 bytes. After cropping and resizing them they are all now
500 to 550px wide X 250 to 550px height dimension-wise and weight-wise:
1. 17 KB = 16,959 bytes
2. 26 KB = 26,288 bytes
3. 47 KB = 48,100 bytes
4. 36 KB = 36,087 bytes
5. 12 KB = 12,279 bytes

--- Susan

 

Hello, thanx for your answer. You can tap on photo it will redirect you on picture hostinf site, there you can enlarge photo to 2k resolution. I`m affraid if i resize or cropp photos than important details will be lost. Best regards

 

A thousand thanks to you, i`m newbie on this forum, next time i`ll consider this. Best regards.

 

At the moment I can't ID these marks, but with that crowned T, Hanau pseudo hallmarks come to mind. I can't make out the other marks. Hopefully someone will come along with more help.
http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html
http://www.silvercollection.it/germansilverhallmarks4.html

--- Susan

 

Thanx again, i thought about this http://www.silvercollection.it/FRENCHHALLMARKSOLD.html
Or it`s excluted?

 

Yes, several French provinces used crowned Ts, but I haven't found this exact crowned T in Tardy's International Hallmarks on Silver for any of the French provinces/communities/towns. Those I found in Tardy that used a crowned T were:
Angers in 1742
Dunkirk in 1780
Issoire in the 17th century
La Mans, Tours in 1698
Nantes in 1744
Paris, mark of the Maison Commune in 1735
Rennes in 1732, 1776
Toulon in late 18th century

Crowned Ts were also early on used by Belgium in the 1600s, and no doubt by other countries. I just don't think this box is as old as the 1600s and 1700s. There are others more knowledgeable on continental silver than I am. Hopefully they will chime in later today. Some of the people only check in a couple of times a week sooooo it may take a few days for any help.

--- Susan

 

I thought exactly about it. Thank you for your help, i owe you a chockolate.

 

I change any photo that won't load to 480x640. Someone here told me long ago now and it works every time.Thanks!

 

This is gold and not silver or silver plate.
A mark of 750 indicates 18K. I believe the 765 mark indicates higher. The crown would be an indication of gold.
I would think the scratched 8213 and initials would be a jewelers repair mark much like they do with watches.
European origin.

Sorry I'm late for work and don't have time to pursue this further for you.
https://www.google.com/search?q=gol...EwiMzdnpgq_KAhUFMGMKHer8DEgQ_AUIBigB&dpr=0.85

 

I don't think this is early 18thC. The style is French from 50 years later. The manufacture could easily be late 19th or 20th C. I don't recognize the monogram, which is particularly weakly done.

 

a quick look and i though it was Pi Pi....

 

It appears to be Cyrillic. (Russian) . The letters are KK.

 

R U sure that's not.......... L L ..?

 

I also see where the cursive PE has a very similar look...



But to me...the K...looks like a K ....imho...

 

Yes, LL does look more like it.

 

I don't doubt that the initials are Cyrillic. OP's photos are on a Russian site and this could easily be a Russian box. The monogram doesn't look like anything I've seen associated with the tsars, but then the ruling family had a lock on neither monograms nor wealth. This could be anyone's monogram. Maybe not quite anyone's. It's not mine.

 

It really looks like cyrillic letters "П"- P, like Peter - Пётр.