Two handled art deco vase with stamped mark ...

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Touchdry, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

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    One of the local french junkshops has this robust looking vase.

    I am curious about it ... so I decided to photograph it and see if I can decipher the mark.

    On one of the 20th century forum NaomiM reckons it might be Belgium art deco.

    But that mark ... I am sure I have seen that before ... but my brai n s e e m s to b e sl ow ing d o w .....

    Any idea at all will be very much appreciated ... and perhaps it might be worth bringing home ...?

    Sorry for the quality of the shots.
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    if that is in any way art Deco.....I have a lot of learning to do........:inpain::inpain:
     
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  3. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    So, komokwa, are you saying that it is not art deco? Is it nouveau? 40's? 50's? What do you think it is?
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    my comment was just that.....I don't know enuf about it ! :sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry:
     
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  5. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    OK ... thats cool! Actually, you are joining the rest of us ... this is all guesswork - and google doesn't help buy showing art nouveau AND art deco together no matter if you type in only one!!
    The way I see it is Art Nouveau (roughly 1900-1920) is the organic plantlike pieces, and Art Deco is the more geometric stuff (roughly 1920-1930) ... I am sure someone here will correct anything I've said!:(
     
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  6. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    JMHO.
    from the combination of the colors I'd research "vlaams aardewerk vaas art deco" first.
     
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  7. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Thanks Fid ... but I am not seeing that hexagonal mark on any vlaam (in fact I'm not seeing any mark at all) ... could be the makers mark - or a distributors mark? I think this is the makers mark.
     
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  8. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    is it possible to have a sharper pic ? we have one or two specialists around that like to play around.
     
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  9. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Ah ... now you have me ... the vase is still in the shop! When I next go there I'll try and get a better shot ... they are very helpful people there so they won't mind - in fact I think they get excited at someone photographing one of their sales items ... could be a sale for them !! Meow!
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'm with Fid, the glaze looks Belgian. Whether Flemish (Vlaams) or Walloon, I couldn't say. Both Art Nouveau and Art Deco are options imo.
     
  11. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Walloon ... whats Walloon?? ... OK ... I'll go on the google ... but come and get me if I'm not back in ten!
     
  12. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    ... I'm getting the same thing - no ceramic marks resemble anything like this hexagonal stamp. While I agree with the glaze looking like a Belgium ceramic - most of the Belgium pots have an impressed base with embossed wording such as "BELGIUM" ... the base on this pot is more crude and unrefined ... so I need to get a visual of that stamp - that will do the trick.
     
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Walloons are also Belgians. Flemish are Dutch-speaking, Walloons are French-speaking. There are also German-speaking Belgians.;)
    Vlaams is Flemish (Dutch) for Flemish.:D
     
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  14. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

  15. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Thanks Fid ... very interesting pieces - I have never seen this sort of work before - so thank you for revealing it. Unfortunately, I think the vlaams works are different from the one I am looking at. They appear to be far superior in quality.
     
  16. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    OK ... here is what I have found so far ... the top letters are "GRES" and the bottom letters are "REFLEX". You will find a number of the same pots on google ... so presumably GRES is the French word for "Stoneware" ... then who is it that makes "Reflex" pottery ... is it the AL in the middle?
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  17. Touchdry

    Touchdry Well-Known Member

    Cracked it! ... Its Labaune Pottery, Paray-le-Monial, Seone et Loire, Eastern France.
     
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  18. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    on ebay there's this reference.
    "Selon Thierry Bonnot de l'écomusée du Creusot-Montceau,
    la marque Reflex est apparue à Paray-le-monial
    après la 2e guerre mondiale."
    seems there is a long tradition around Paray; also tiles. but I'm not sure if we find an exact match; it seems that the poteries were sold and bought and changed hands quite often or went into bankruptcy. or in good proper French: C'est le bordel. :rolleyes:
     
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