Help to date and ID bedside water carafe set in cut glass (I think)

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by northernridge, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    Here's a very pretty little bedside water carafe, with matching glass. The carafe measures just under 7" tall, and the set is heavy, weighing a whopping 2 lb. 6 oz.
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    My other question would be where to start with the listing price. I like to start low—like 9.99, or even .99—but there are definitely exceptions to that M.O. I don't see anything like this on completed listings, BTW.

    Here's a close-up of the glass. Is there a particular way to describe this decorative motif? Art Nouveau, maybe?
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    A close-up of the decoration on the carafe.
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    As always, heartfelt thanks!
     
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  2. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    The carafe with tumbler cover arrangement is called a "Tumble Up."
     
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  3. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    I'll be darned. Thank you so much for that.

    It sort of reminds me of when I was looking on eBay to replace what I'd thought were jelly glasses (they were peanut butter). Fellows here advised me to look for "swanky swigs." Magic. It so helps to know what things are called!
     
  4. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    The styling doesn't look like Art Nouveau to me, which usually has graceful swirls and a sense of fluid movement.
     
  5. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    Thanks for that.

    I'm staying tuned.
     
  6. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    I never saw or heard of these before tonight? I think its beautiful. :cat:
     
  7. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    Thank you.

    Does anyone have a guess as to age? And is it correct to call it cut glass?
     
  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I would call it cut design, although it is probably copper wheel engraved.
    It is not American Brilliant Cut.

    The time period is hard, it could be early 1900s up to 1940s.
    Tumble UP is the correct name.
     
  9. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Cluttered - isn't this what's called, "gray cut?" I know it shouldn't be "cut glass," as that conjures up scads of Waterford's double old-fashioneds.

    Northern, 'scuse for a moment while I ask a question of glass people while I know they are here! Why is there no such thing as a SINGLE old fashioned? If one were to go to a bar, and order scotch neat, one would get the drink in a small glass. They are usually thick, of course, but well-designed. However, Waterford doesn't seem to have such a critter. Nor does Lenox, nor the long-gone Fostoria. Or, maybe I just haven't found any?
     
  10. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Silver,
    The glasse's name was old fashion glass. Who started with the double is a mystery
    to me.
    greg
     
  11. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    OK. Weird, but OK. But WHERE are small, elegant, cut crystal glasses meant to contain just the liquor -- and no candidates for the compost pile??
     
  12. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    An Old Fashion is a type of alcoholic beverage. The glass used holds approximately 6 oz.

    A double Old Fashion is twice the amount of drink approximately 12 oz.

    The glasses were made to serve the drink. Another example would be the martini glass. Specific glasses for specific drinks.

    northern -
    I don't generally use the term grey cut. That term started being bandied around on the PGP board. Pushed as a description that I don't remember being in general use before.
    It is a grey, because it wasn't polished.
     
  13. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    Silver, I know your expertise is in tableware, but I am at a loss as to what to call one of two pieces of signed Desimone Italian pottery. One piece is a 7" vase. The other is a six-sided dish with lid, 4 1/2" diameter and three inches deep. Would you have a look please?
     
  14. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    So I'm just wondering what words I should actually use to describe the glass decoration...
     
  15. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

     
  16. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Um...I am looking at...what?? I looked up the name on eBay, And I had to laugh -- my reaction would be to say, go away and let me eat in peace! Yeesh!

    Cluttered - thanks for the help. I know about the Contents of the glasses -- its the glasses themselves that I can't find. (I don't know HOW you people keep track of the stuff. I'd go right 'round the bend!
     
  17. northernridge

    northernridge Active Member

    Revision, for what it's worth. The vase is not 7, but 5" tall. And the "box" is not hexagram in shape, but octagon. There, that ought to teach me not to rely on memory!
     
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