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$50 Van Gogh ?

Discussion in 'Art' started by bosko69, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No, van Gogh didn't paint Siberian fishermen. And it is nothing like his early style.
     
  3. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Looks pretty odd to me-not sure why they're considering it.
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Vincent Van No, more like it. It looks like someone's junior high art class drawing that Grandma framed.
     
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  5. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I read that article the other day and the company that bought it swears it is by Van Gogh during his time in an insane asylum . I dont care what they claim,it looks nothing like one of his works .Its awful !
     
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  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    I can't imagine why the Smithsonian Institute Magazine published this article -hopefully Rupert Murdoch hasn't bought it !
     
  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Or hopefully he has.:D:D:D If you're the seller anyway.
     
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  8. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Ditto Ruth, Elon can kick-in some too !
     
  9. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Enlarged 4X and sharpened the top & bottom of my enlargement of the sleeve area, and see what looks like it can/could be some writing, but that's all I can say about it......

    VANGOGH-gigapixel-text-shapes-4x-2.jpg
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree. This is an amateur painting, no quality at all.

    And the asylum was inland, in Saint Remy, no sea in sight.
    His paintings from that period reflect the bright Provençal colours, notably yellows and blues. He painted the beautiful asylum garden and the nearby fields and mountains (Les Alpilles). He did paint a few works with a more demure colouring, mostly set in the evening. In those paintings blues are dominant.

    His Millet-inspired paintings have the typical swirls and yellows and blues of the later period van Gogh, and none of them depict a maritime subject.
    Had he painted the sea, he would have had to go on an assisted outing to the Mediterranean. This would have been documented.
    And of course Provençal fishermen didn't wear the warm and wintery clothing the above fisherman wears.:rolleyes:
     
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  11. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    RE: the "$50 Van Gogh" -- HERE'S the Online Smithsonian Magazine article ABOUT THIS painting....I have NO idea if it IS or ISN'T......

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...s-a-lost-van-gogh-worth-15-million-180985942/

    From the article: "The collector sold the piece to the art research firm LMI Group International for an undisclosed amount in 2019. Since then, the company’s researchers have been investigating the painting, and they recently released a 450-page report detailing their conclusion: It’s a van Gogh."

    OMG--IF'N it IS THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE REPORT:
    https://www.lmigroupintl.com/pdf/elimar-report
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2025
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

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  14. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    It doesn't look anything like his work
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :smug:;)
    Agree.
     
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  16. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FANTASTIC.....I wasn't crazy about it anyhooo!!!:):happy: But you can't say 'they' didn't research it well!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Here in the Netherlands 'van Goghs' and 'Rembrandts' are 'discovered' in attics and flea markets etc nearly every month. In a way we are used to it, so no one makes a fuss about it.
    And if a painting or etching doesn't even look like the real deal....;)
     
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  18. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    LMI Group ( who now owns this piece) claimed to have spent 30K researching this painting-sounds like a marketing ploy.
    The main question is why did they hitch their reputational star to this piece ? I mean if you walked into a hall full of amateur oil portraits looking for anything that even remotely resembled a Van Gogh- I doubt if any of Us would pick this one.
     
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  19. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It makes zero sense; I've seen better in high school art shows.
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a lot of hot air, especially if you look at their findings. Their claims are not good advertising for the LMI Group.

    This is from their own site:

    "A hair was found embedded in the painted surface of the canvas. Exhaustive testing and research by a team from one of the world’s leading scientific laboratories yielded proof that the hair is human and male. Its degraded state thwarted a quest to explore potential DNA matching with descendants of van Gogh."
    https://www.lmigroupintl.com/project-highlights/analyzing-the-dna-found-on-elimar

    There are countless labs that do DNA-research and matching. They just go about their job without being called "one of the world’s leading scientific laboratories".
    And "the hair is human and male". Wow, van Gogh was human and male!!!:woot::woot:
    Good thing the hair was too degraded to be matched, because it wouldn't be a match.
    Btw, van Gogh also tended to lick his brushes, so there could be DNA in the paint. I don't know if any lab can isolate DNA from such a difficult source yet.

    "Our findings align with the SAFA report, which recorded an average thread density of 10 x 10 threads per cm across seven randomly selected and measured locations. Literature on other van Gogh paintings, such as Sunflowers, shows denser thread counts, with measurements of 11.5 x 17.2 threads per cm."
    https://www.lmigroupintl.com/project-highlights/analyzing-the-elimar-canvas-weave

    So not the same thread count as on van Gogh's 'Sunflowers'. Of course he painted several Sunflower paintings, so which one? Or do they all have the same thread count, whereas this "Elimar" painting has a different thread count.

    And of course the van Gogh Museum says "Elimar" is not by van Gogh. Need I say more.
     
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