Featured Cheap Mid-Eastern Box

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by bosko69, Jan 7, 2025 at 2:41 PM.

  1. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    My problem is I already have a space issue and my wife keeps saying we have to many antiques, now I have to keep all this junk (firewood). It gets worse, 10 years ago the same friend bought me a modern Chinese inlaid coffee table top, no legs. It's lovely inlay but what am I meant to do with it? It's under the bed ATM and has been ever since he walked out the door 10 years ago.
     
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  2. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    As I've said the bottom 3 are a cut above the norm but still only post 1960's
     
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  3. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    One thing I would love to know is if the gold colour metal on old Khatam is gold or brass, it does say gold was used and these boxes are pre-1880's. I would have thought brass would tarnish over that period? 29216962_127804341387881_35019707337670656_n.jpg
     
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  4. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    This from google's AI
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    Yes, gold is a common material used in the ancient Persian art of khatam:
    • Khatam: An ancient Persian art technique of inlaying, where intricate geometric patterns are created on wooden surfaces using precisely-cut pieces of wood, bone, metal, and other materials. Gold, silver, brass, aluminum, and twisted wire are all commonly used.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, gold and silver were used.
    Brass can tarnish, but it doesn't always look very tarnished. For instance, the brass in Bouille work (tortoiseshell inlaid with brass an pewter) usually looks good, even after 200+ years.
     
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  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Raver-That tell-tale inlay reminds me of the inlay around the sound hole of very fine guitars.
    Ditto AJ,I figure they mark it way up because you're getting the cachet of the BM.
    Yep Davey-If I was going to dip back into 'hard labor' ,house clearance & the poss treasure hidden in the wreckage would be damn motivating !
     
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  7. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    After restoring 2 Boulle boxes in the last year I might have to disagree, I can't think of any brass under lacquer that lasts more than 100 years without discolouring. I would say the Khatam box above is at least 140 years old and to me it looks gold in colour. I'm not saying it's definitely gold but saying that I can't think of any Khatam I know of that definitely has gold in either and we know gold was used.
     
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  8. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Oh agreed, the gift shop is not cheap! But they don’t sell anything ugly, so it’s a sort of a compliment IMO that they chose to retail marquetry like this - :rolleyes: and they think they can sell it for that much!
     
  9. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    I think these are lovely, although my taste might not be very refined. Worth working for… depending the work?:D
     
  10. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Davey knows more about this than me,but I'd assume-sometimes moving heavy furniture down stairs & more-seems risky even for a teenager ?
     
  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The work was not hard labour or toil, but I had to be there to supervise the heavy lifters.
    I did uncover other treasures nearby and inside the boxes, more like picking or a hobby than work, I suppose:cool:
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not this time..... but you've done your share in the past.... eh?!!!;)
     
  13. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Damn Davey-Sounds like you've got it made mate.Don't know if this is you or not-but I've met a few ex-cops who've taken early disability retirement & become Pickers.
     
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