Help with 2 paintings - Madonna & a Max Moreau Portrait

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Nov 27, 2024 at 3:54 PM.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I haven't bought any paintings in a while (it was like going through detox-], but when I saw these at a local thrift for $50 & $40 I was bitten by the bug again!
    The first is a 1950 portrait by well known artist Max Moreau.
    But once home, I remembered someone here telling me paintings usually aren't covered with glass, but prints are. I did a image search & nothing the same came up, so that made me feel better - but I knew I needed to check here.
    Can anyone tell me if this is a painting or a print without me having to take it out of the frame?

    The second is a unsigned painting of the Madonna. I thought it might be by a Peruvian school that's known for its Madonna paintings?
    It also has some light crackling & a layer of dust (or mold in Miami's humidity?) that made me believe it had some age.
    But after photographing it, some of the images made me wonder if it could be a print on canvas, even though it doesn't feel like one by touch.
    Also, why did they paint the back of the canvas brown?
    Thank you for any help!
    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Artificial aging. A copy of a Cusco School painting probably.

    Debora

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  3. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Debora. The painting is 28 x 20 - is it worth $50 as a copy? (The frame is big - 28.5 x 39 - is that worth what I paid for it? - I'm trying not to lose money anymore on art; not the best start!)
     
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    There's no way of knowing its value until you find a buyer. I will say that 1) the subject is generally appealing and 2) the attractive frame is a bonus.

    Debora
     
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  5. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Have faith in yourself Journey-the Moreau (if orig) looks good.You're being more careful now-great move amigo.
     
  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thanks Debora
     
  7. Jim Goodykoontz

    Jim Goodykoontz Active Member

    the madonna is definitely worth $300 to $500 on ebay. interesting and well done Christian themed art sells well and that has a nice look to it.
     
  8. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Gracious - i have so many no ones interested in, so I decided I need to ignore my gut feelings (I think I'm addicted to Chinese factory!) & look at the art a little harder!
     
  9. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thanks - fingers crossed!
     
  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  11. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Watercolor and gouache paintings are typically mounted under glass to help protect them from damage and environmental factors.
     
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  12. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Agreed with sabre, many paintings do get mounted under glass --typically pieces on paper. Board or canvas usually are not. There are of course exeptions to both situations, so it's only one piece of the puzzle.

    For the Moreau piece it looks like some jagged artifacting on the lines of the right side of the face but that could be the photo quality. Can you take a photo of it very close up so we can look for print processes?

    In person I would advise you to always carry a jeweler's loupe with you. That way you can quickly rule out prints done with halftone or digital processes by seeing them magnified. A good screen, block print or etching might fool at that level but at least those are usually worth more.

    You can also use magnification to see if you can see texture from brush strokes, layering, pencil drawings, etc. Tilt the pieces to catch the light for any build up of paint or flash of graphite under-drawing, etc.

    And go to an art museum for research!! :D
     
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