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Just found this Chinese (i'm guessin ?) food/wine pot at a garage sale.It's 8 3/4" inches tall,the pot's mouth is 3 1/4" inches across.I figure this form of vessel was used for many years,but any guesses re it's age are welcome.
I'd guess subtleties of form,clay type & manufacture are the only way to guess on age.
Thanks !

 

Something about the bottom, both inside an' out, suggests inserted to me. I am not very familiar with Asian pottery, Bosko...a pinch of salt may be useful here.
I like the color, collar, an' glaze...Sweet find!

 

Thanks a bunch Whit.These old commonplace shape & forms they've used for centuries are some of my favorite examples of Folk Art.
PS-By 'inserted' do you mean molded,or inserted into a wood/charcoal fire-like Raku ?

 

What I think I see is a ~circular slab of clay that has been placed into the lower end of an open-both-ends vessel-in-work. Look at pic 3, from ~6 o'clock 'round to roughly 10...an' perhaps even to 12. There's a curved line, an'
I can't figure what else would cause that feature.
Also, pics 4 & 5 show the flat bottom as slightly D-shaped, 'tho there is no interior delineation as obvious as the exterior seems to show.
These are a clay-dummy's observations, not to be given much weight, y'know?

 

Thanks Whit,I'll check out the pots construction a bit more carefully.MEANWHILE-I'm prayin' for a few of our generous (but sometimes elusive) Chinese experts to show up-I'll try tagging them.
Boy-it only takes a few seconds to get blown off the front page on a busy day !

 

Whit-I think it's somewhere in this family of vessels,just not sure of date.
'antique Chinese qing brown glazed pickling jar'

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1579333685/antique-19th-century-chinese-terracotta?gpla=1&gao=1&

 

It is a stoneware storage jar. These jars were used to store anything that needed to be protected, from food and wine to valuables.
The Etsy seller says terracotta, but stoneware is much harder and stronger than terracotta.

Many centuries, even. It was already made during the T'ang dynasty. Most were made in Fujian, China, but they were also made in Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand, abeit with small regional differences.
Dating these is notoriously difficult, but my guess is yours was made in the 19th or 20th century. I could be wrong.

I absolutely love them, but they are not folk art. They are utilitarian ceramics, made in serial production. If you google 'Martaban storage jar' you will find more like it.

I have a large Martaban dragon jar that was found in Kalimantan, Indonesia. Probably brought over on a trading ship, as they were used by Asian, European, and American ships alike for fresh water and wine. Empty Martaban jars could be traded in for newly filled ones in most Asian ports. Guesstimate of mine is 18th century, but again, dating is very difficult, and it could be older.

 

Thanks AJ-Yep huge amounts made and thanks for the term 'Martaban'. Every seller seems to have a different opinion on what their particular pot was used for,because as you said-they were used for every & all these things.
PS-How the seller confused stoneware with terracotta's a mystery (unless the creators wanted broken jars ?).
PSS-I wonder why this style has the vertical incised lines near the pot mouth,functional or religious significance ?
As always-you're research and knowledge is super helpful-thanks !

 

I really like these utilitarian jars, but dating is so difficult as some are still being made. I have a few green ginger jars and some pottery wine bottles that may have been fished out of the harbour here.

 

They have also been found with porcelain teacups etc inside them. A good way of protecting your precious porelain.

Probably just ignorance. If it is baked clay it is terracotta, right?

Decorational imo.

 

For all lovers of SE Asian storage jars

https://files.friesmuseum.nl/files/1/8/2/3/jars_research_Eva.pdf

 

I've found a few tokkuri bottles and ginger jars that i suspect were dug/dredged locally.Almost every pioneer town of any size had an Asian community.
PS-Aside,one of my oldest friends dug two pristine opium pipe bowls in a Sonoma County,CA chinatown.

 

The condition of these 500 yr old pots is remarkable-beautiful examples.I found the section on how they survived (...and became part of the world art market) quite interesting-
"Asian export ceramics, survived intact in three ways: in gravesites, in sunken ships, and as heirloom pieces."
I guess most storage utilitarian ware found in dump/privy sites would be broken (?).

 

This one on Ebay has a (later ?) interior wood frame in it ?
Perhaps put there for later (primitive) curatorial reinforcement ?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/125647745817

 

These were valued, not dumped. The ones found in gravesites usually served to bury ancestral bones and/or ashes in them, as a sign of respect. Martabans were thought to be magic, especially the dragon ones.
But if you were to dump a Martaban, you would have to apply a lot of force to break it.

That one is a twin of mine, except mine doesn't have the stain on the side where the glaze didn't hold.
And of course it doesn't have that crazy wooden construction. I don't know what that construction is for, but it looks fairly recent. Maybe someone turned it into a lamp?

 

Is your mind still sometimes blown by what the stuff you bought 30 or 40 years ago is selling for currently ?
PS-The wonderful thing about your little museum collection-is that you still have most of it...still.there must be a few things you wish you still had ?

 

Ain't that the truth?
I can attest to considerable regret in that area...

 

Absolutely. I bought my Martaban in the early 80s, when I still had my bricks and mortar shop. I paid a fraction of the ebay asking price.

I still have my Martaban because no one bought it (when I still had my shop). But I have grown very fond of it since, so it will stay until I can no longer keep it.

A few. Not many, but yes, there is the occasional pang in my heart. Choices, right?

 

Bookmarked the link!

 

Yay!!! It is the best research I have found so far, it is even quoted in SE Asian publications.