Featured victorian cane mark help

hi folks

bought this nice victorian cane yesterday from my friends house clearance shop.
i'm not sure what the metal is but was told copper (does have that coppery colour/tone)probably that was once silver plated. i don't go along with that but snapped it up for that kind of price (wink)

i think its a beauty, maybe gilded silver or perhaps rolled gold, unsure
found a mark on it today that doesn't make much sense ?

any comments or info appreciated

 

it took the attention of an old lady at the bus stop coming home, next thing i knew she had it in her mouth, and said it was brass, so that could be a possibility as well i suppose

"hey charlie, i saw you the other day with an old lady on the top of your walking stick"

 

Beautiful!

I hope you disinfected it. If you rub it you can also smell if it is brass.

 

i asked how she came to that conclusion, and she said oh i licked it

i can't smell anything brassy, just old smelling, but the ol gal seemed to know her stuff

she was mightily drawn to it though, and marvelled at the price, even cheekily offered 21

 

Beautiful detail that. Nice buy!

 

Very nice Charlie. I can't help but notice you have so much nice greenery where you take your photos. Lovely

 

thanks pearls !

 

funny you should say that mate as its got a rattle, there does look like a possible ridge at the top

doesn't seem to twist though, unless its seized up

would be cool if it had an inner blade but also not for selling purposes

 

damn it, i thought there was a chunk missing

 

It is one way to figure out what's where. I might have hobbled off with that too.

 

bingo i thinko

simons brothers ?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/102236...how_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details

 

Beautiful stick! I'd say it was gilt brass at some point.

I like the inscription on the handle - "Christmas 1894". Awwww!!

 

If you zoom in on your final photo there’s quite a bit of tiny verdigris present. Definitely a copper based alloy so probably brass. Nice stick! I collect them and grab them anytime I can.

 

yeah there seem quite a few online by simons brothers all stating gold filled so quite confident thats in fact what it is, just doesn't look like brass to me

the company seemed to work in silver and gold from what i can gather

https://www.langantiques.com/univer...UbHShTN4ol4eqj44vNXH9QQu28WmwMDNlYLtS1mSKVmSi

 

https://www.925-1000.com/ax_simonsbros.html

 

Lower karat gold could potentially have verdigris I guess. I know what you mean though. I have some that you’d swear up and down are gold when you you look at them. If they are unmarked I guess there’s a pretty good chance they are just filled though. The caveat being that since they were handled so extensively the marks could be rubbed off.

I feel like the ultra high relief ones are more likely to be filled. if gold I think they’d be more likely to be easily dented and crushed. The marked gold ones I’ve had have are more toned down.

 

its a good point actually, what you might be seeing here is both the remains of the filled gold layer and also the base metal show through in areas

the plaque part is actually silver in colour just to add to the confusion