Featured Backyard archaeology - coin hoard

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Bev aka thelmasstuff, Oct 28, 2024.

  1. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    When we moved into the 1850 family homestead in 1990, there were generations of family stuff (still is!) in the attic. We found several bottle dumps out back. One of my brothers-in-law was a bit of a waster and lived here with his mother most of his life. He was always collecting anything he could sell for drinking money. There was a wooden crate full of old metal junk sitting by the corner of the house out back which I never bothered to look at and it slowly disintegrated. Yesterday, Jon and I decided to clean up the yard. As we started filling buckets with rusty metal bits, I started finding old coins in one corner. They are all dated 1818-1851 and nearly every one is damaged in some way. Most have random holes. I cleaned a couple to see details. I figure nothing I do is going to reduce the value any more than they are already. A clue to the source popped up when I found a 1974 penny underneath most of the hoard. Obviously, Tom left them in the crate. I just can't figure out if he damaged them or if he found them somewhere like that and why someone would do that. It was kind of exhilarating. IMG_6010.jpeg IMG_6011.jpeg IMG_6019.jpeg IMG_6018.jpeg
     
  2. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

  3. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Numismatics is a fascinating an' often exhilarating pursuit...an' once you fall under its spell, All Hope Abandon!
    Very nice clutch of holed coinage, Bev...Good Luck!
     
  4. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    What a shame, some look in pretty good shape if it wasn't for the damage.
    If you get copper ones that are covered in verdigris, soak them in virgin olive oil, sometimes for a week sometimes for 6 months.
     
  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Why they cut slots in some I have no idea. Drilled and holed coins are easier to keep track of. Some of them look like they went on watch chains or similar like lucky pennies.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like someone was practicing with a jewelry saw.....
    those are pretty good cuts on the dime....
     
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  7. Ex Libris

    Ex Libris Well-Known Member

    What a cool find! The deliberate damage makes it much more interesting than a handful perfect undamaged coins.
     
  8. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Wow. I never knew there was such a thing as a holed coin on purpose. I'm headed out to the back yard to dig for more! Someone said white vinegar will clean them without harm. Is that true? They're pretty crusted with dirt.
     
  9. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Fascinating ! If we ever move to the UK/Europe-we'll soon have a metal detector.
     
  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'll let the coin guys handle this one, but holed coins used to be common.
     
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  11. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Hadn't heard of that, Davey...Thanks!
     
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  12. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Looks like a penny t'me, Komo.
     
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  13. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Vinegar is an acid, it will corrode them, the silver ones need soaking in a jar of household ammonia, copper soak in olive oil, brass or bronze need an acetone bath.
    Keep the lids on when using acetone and ammonia and don't mix the chemicals and keep away from bleach, otherwise you make chlorine gas which is deadly.
     
  14. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I'm on Cape Cod in Massachusetts. These are American pennies. Old copper one cent coins from the early 1800s.
     
  15. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Dug up a dozen more today before my back gave out.
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    yup , my screen color is off......... & so am I ! :wacky::wacky:
     
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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    a penny for your thoughts !!!!! :hilarious:
     
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  18. NanaB

    NanaB Well-Known Member

    Does cleaning them make them sell valuable? I ask because we went to a coin show & I was told never to clean old coins, or handle them with anything but gloves ? They said the same for stamps. So it is ok to clean them now?
     
  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you can clean off dirt and grime....... never polish them...
     
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  20. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Numismatically coins should not be cleaned, soaking in acetone can be used to get rid of dirt and gunge.
    They should never be rubbed or scrubbed.
    Cleaning the coins in the OP is fine as they are already damaged and beyond help.
    Ancient coins (Roman, Greek, Byzantine etc) are cleaned by collectors but that is another story.
     
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