chinese bronze seal

I have bought this huge and heavy bronze seal and it supposed to be a qianlong seal but i know it is a replica. It measures 10 x 10 x 10 cm and weighs 2925 grams. And it reads
Treasure of the Son of Heave. Does this seal have any age at all, because of the wear underneath??

 

it's a lovely paperweight.....

 

this seal of christies has the same wear on it as mine so if it is good enough for christie's to sell late seals it is good enough for me. See https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/art-china-online-autumn-sale/three-bronze-seals-110/46780

 

These are the Qing dynasty seals made from Shoushan Tianhuang stone so prized it was told the only thing the last Emperor took with him as he fled the city. worth something like 50,000,000. USD This stone has risen in value because the deposit is depleted and the production was so small it is incredibly rare and the most expensive stone in China auction prices can reach $100,000. Per gram. This stone was the preference for royalty and softer stone makes better seals. If those bronze seals were used in the dynasty I would think for lower official use, despite that they would still be valuable.

 

this sale was in 2016 prices have risen dramatically in the last 8 to 10 years.

 

On the 3 seals linked by a chain of Tienhuang, just think how much stone it took to carve the chain and seals from 1 piece of stone.

 

While that can be an indicator, always be a little suspicious of the obvious signs that can be easily faked, patina is a better indicator, take the seal to a pawn shop and have it XRF tested for metal alloy, bronze from the 18th century will be different that modern bronze alloys…

 

I think my blood sugar was low when I posted value for best quality Tianhuang, not 1,000. Per gram… it is 100,000. Per gram according to latest auction results according to this web expert.

 

so the Ming block sold for just over $9700 a gram in 2016..... and now it's worth over 10 times that??????

A little rich for my blood..

 

That sale was 8 years ago, now me personally I have no idea, honestly I was shocked when I began reading this but that’s what I’m reading this stone has increased in value 10X at a minimum, this is for the best quality. I’ve been posting the ones my wife got from her friends ex husband because I’m in disbelief, and uncertain where her carving fit on the scale from good to great… I really don’t know? But I do at least know that her stones are genuine. But information is scarce probably because the stone is scarce, if my wife cared she could ask anyone of her friends that deal in this type of stone or her friend who is the director for the state sponsored auction house in Shanghai but she doesn’t really care she has no intention in selling at this time so it doesn’t matter. Me, the one who can’t speak the language. Remotely enough to satisfy my curiosity that is becoming an obsession.

 

u sound like a fish out of water..... but your wife stones could buy an island !!

 

Maybe, lots of details separate good from great.

 

I am a fish out of water growing up sleeping on cheep sheets (I like the feel of cheep sheets), lol.

 

i think we are going of topic just a bit. interesting reading. my seal has got patina from incense burning so it is not new from a shop. And the wear marks are pretty decent. this is an example i found with the same patina: https://auctions.doreandrees.com/ca...2a358e6eef0ce537def266d/fine-asian-art-lot-5/
i have found five seals on the internet of my type and the all say qing dynasty or 19th century??

 

Probably a little off but sorry don’t mean to hijack your thread but it is all information about seals, value… and the like. I looked at the link couple things jump out at me. First they list it as a late Qing early republic seal, I have not found where an example of a large Bronze seal used by the Qing dynasty saw continued use during the republic period? seals were typically jade, precious metals and sometimes wood. Lower official seals issued to them were typically small so they could be carried with the officials, I don’t know much about the politics but it seems a little odd that the seal of a disposed regime seal would see much use by its replacement, but I don’t know. Next the auction estimate 200 to 400 pds is very low I think, why. Tian huang red flag is a low evaluation, why?

 

Let me qualify what I saying is I don’t know for sure one way or the other but some things don’t add up.

 

my seal is een late qing reproduction to honnor the genuine seal of the emperor. I has defently age and no it was not realy used as an real imperial stamp but just a pretty desk weight. hensfor the wear marks