antique map c 1700

Discussion in 'Art' started by BirdsEye1578, Sep 18, 2024.

  1. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 Member

    Hello-
    I like to collect antique maps. I'm not sure if this is the right subforum or not, but am looking for thoughts on framing something.

    The attached map is of three provinces of Netherlands and the North Sea. I am thinking a dark blue or almost black matting with a dark gold frame but am open to ideas.
    Cheers
     

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Sounds lovely, picking up the lighter blue. (You could also pick up the lighter pink and go with magenta but I think that would be a bit too much.) In the end though, only you know what will work with your decor. And a good framer will have a suggestion as well.

    Debora
     
  4. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    I found the same map as yours online:
    maps.jpg
    I can experiment if you or anyone have/has more suggestions.
     
  5. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 Member

    yeah sure actually, I'd like to not have the white matting and just show the patina on top of the dark blue
     
  6. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    It wasn't intended to be a white mat, just space around the perimeter of the map, but is this what you mean?

    map2.jpg
     
  7. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 Member

    close but no. I want to consider showing the patina. It isn't damaged to the extent it needs repair or extensive covering, so I'm weighing whether to cover the damage or display it. The former will make it a nice wall piece that appeals to many, the latter would probably only appeal to people who like authenticity in maps when possible.

    So, if you take a look at the attached this was a salvage piece I redid to cover the damage, so you don't see any patina. It turned out really well and maintained the original coloring without seeing the tears from the previous framing. So I'm thinking something like this but with dark blue matting and a gold to goldish brown frame.
     

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  8. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    If you can take a pic of your map that shows the whole thing, and as square as possible, I'll put it in the mockup.
     
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  9. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Former(ish) framer here.

    Do you mean a float mount on top of the mat, in order to show the complete edge of your map? That's certainly an option. It can be done with acid-free, museum mount tape, but I would strongly suggest you either mount it straight to a plain acid free white (undyed) museum-grade board as your full mat, or else have it mounted to that plain board, and then that board mounted to the top of the color mat (Or the color mat cut to frame the mounted map). You don't want any potential color transfer. Any frame shop you talk to can do this for you. They will also mount it in either a shadowbox or with spacers to keep the art from touching the glass.

    Your other option is the mount in under a cut mat as normal, but if you don't want the white beveled edge to show, then you can ask for a "reverse bevel" to hide it. This mount style will hide at least 1/16 to 1/8" of the edge of your map.

    I'm the first person to want the darkest mats on my art, but with antique prints it may be too much of a contrast to go very dark, given how their pigment is typically lighter. If darker is preferred, then match to the darkest darks in the piece (and they may not be that dark!). I think in this case a lighter or mid-tone might be best. Your framer can show you what the options are.
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    one inch oak frame , and a cream colored mat........

    many ways to bring the map to life.....
    I find the gold and blue to rich......
     
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  11. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    A half-assed attempt at Komo's idea...sorry brother, the oak frame is more work than I can put in atm.
    MapsCream.jpg
    Picking up a color in the map from Mirana's idea:
    MapsSage.jpg
    A floated version from Mirana's idea:
    MapsFloat1.jpg
     
  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I like the cream...but the green's not bad either..
     
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  13. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Also prefer the cream..
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is quite nice.
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome @BirdsEye1578 . I notice both of the maps you posted are situated in the Low Countries. Is that a coincidence?

    The Netherlands map is of the Rhineland and the Amstelland, both in Holland, the west of the Netherlands.
    The town map is of course of Leuven (Louvain) in Brabant, presently Belgium.
     
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  16. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 Member

    no it is not a coincidence. I have a collection of maps/artistry of the low countries. Actually I have two brilliant works from Cosmographia featuring Amsterdam and Haarlam separately.

    I'm aware Leuven is in Belgium. That piece is by Hogenburg from 1609. I got it from salvage and was able to bring it back to life with no restoration.

    If you are Dutch, you should see what I have of Nijmegen upon Waal Stroom.
     
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  17. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    Very cool. Do you know about the one that shows when Antarctica was still green?
     
  18. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 Member

    I'm listening.
     
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  19. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    I think it was the Piri Reis. They showed it on Ancient Aliens.
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Would love to see it.
    I wonder if it is similar to one I have, titled "Nymmegen Wael Flu", from Civitatus Orbis Terrarum by Braun & Hogenberg.
    This one (not mine):

    https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3200m.gct00128b/?sp=42&r=-0.47,-0.043,1.82,0.826,0

    I don't collect antique maps, but inherited a few and always like seeing others.
    Not everyone is, and this forum is read by people worldwide, so I try to be precise.
     
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