Featured Mexican wooden jar

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by Chinoiserie, May 2, 2024.

  1. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    IMG20240502223726_copy_3000x4000.jpg IMG_20240502_223843_copy_3000x4000.jpg IMG20240502223735_copy_4000x3000.jpg IMG20240502223746_copy_3992x2994.jpg I picked this up last week in Penrith. There was no phone signal in the locality so I had to take a gamble really.
    I think it's vintage mexican and possibly touristy. I think it is too well turned to have any real age

    It's about 11cm ø

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Looks more South American than North American to my eye. Let's see what others think.

    Debora
     
  3. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

  4. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'll be following this thread because of my mystery stacked box set:

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    It was sold to me as being Amsterdam/The Hague School batik ware, and while the shape, characteristic lid, and colour scheme look the same, the motifs do not.
    Dutch Amsterdam/The Hague School batik ware was inspired by Javanese batik techniques, and often used Javanese motifs or typical Amsterdam School motifs. The Dutch batik technique was applied to textiles, but also to wood and celluloid.
    These motifs are neither Javanese nor Amsterdam School, imo.

    Someone has suggested to me that the 'animals' are Dayak Aso, or Dragon Dogs, in which case it is from Borneo, but I haven't been able to find proof. So I am open to suggestions.
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2024
  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Oooh thanks. Nice to see something similar as there doesn't seem to be much similar online. I do have another one but was feeling lazy last night. I will post photos when I get home.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I also have another stacked set.;) Darker colour, and two tiers, if I remember correctly (it is in another room and I'm too lazy to go look:shame:. Geez we're a lazy bunch!).
    The one I posted is my favourite though, it sits on my Art Deco vanity.:)
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the critters are similar for sure....
     
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  9. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Here's the other one. It looks like the colour is water based. IMG20240503174508_copy_3000x4000.jpg IMG20240503174503_copy_3000x4000.jpg
     
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  10. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

  12. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Thanks. One description says aboriginal. Interesting
     
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The last one you posted is interesting. The seller says Lombok, and the box is the only one with a carved bird finial on the lid, like Lombok boxes have, as well as some other Indonesian boxes. The seller on the Italian site (Spanish language) also says Lombok, btw.

    Screenshot 2024-05-04 at 16-05-43 Hand Carved Wooden Box from Lombok - Etsy Nederland.jpg
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/246811309/hand-carved-wooden-box-from-lombok

    So I think Lombok, or at least Indonesia, is the strongest contender so far.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2024
  14. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Yes, it seems a good possibility. The characteristics of the wood (as seen in Chinoiserie's closeups) looks similar to what I have seen in some Balinese carvings, so it might be the same tropical species.

    Just found this in my bookmarks related to Indonesian objects :banghead: -

    Figure 8: Decorative wooden bowl with painted lizard designs:
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    https://www.art-pacific.com/artifacts/indonesi/lombasko.htm

    I would feel better if we could find the actual animal figure on one identified as from Lombok.
     

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  15. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Lombok it is then.:) Thanks for all the work you did, @2manybooks . My stacked boxes have been a mystery for quite some time, and I am happy to know now.:happy:
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2024
  17. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Hooray. Three cheers for book person :happy:
     
  18. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    A very satisfying conclusion to the source mystery. Well done all.

    Debora
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2024
  19. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    @Any Jewelry - I think I was not seriously considering an Indonesian source in the beginning because I figured you knew all things Indonesian already. :)
    It certainly seems to be a less common art form than their baskets.
     
  20. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    When AJ says she didn't know I kind of gave up all hope.
     
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