Featured Is this possible on a piece of 9ct gold jewelry? Please help

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by shamster, Mar 26, 2024.

  1. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Hi all,

    I bought this necklace(converted from an antique bracelet actually) tagged 9ct gold today at an antique jewelry shop. When I checked it under loupe at home, I noticed there's some gold peeling off and the tone of the said 9ct gold is much more silver. I've emailed the shop but what do you think? Could it actually be silver gilt or normal for 9ct gold?I heard there's a technique of coating low karat gold with high karat gold, but I cant be sure.

    Many thanks!
     

    Attached Files:

    • necklace.jpg
      necklace.jpg
      File size:
      624.8 KB
      Views:
      93
    • 1.jpg
      1.jpg
      File size:
      800 KB
      Views:
      98
    • 2.jpg
      2.jpg
      File size:
      425.7 KB
      Views:
      102
    kyratango, stracci and johnnycb09 like this.
  2. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    PS: not sure if this helps, all similar examples I can found online is made of solid karat gold, so it would be weird if this one is indeed silver-gilt? But the piece is beautiful anyway and the chain is hallmarked 14ct gold, I just want to make sure I'm not overpaying!
     
    Any Jewelry, kyratango and johnnycb09 like this.
  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Can you show the 9ct and 14ct hallmarks.
    No hallmarks take it back
     
    Any Jewelry likes this.
  4. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Much of where you have marked are the joints which will have been soldered - but overall I can't see enough detail in the images to make a considered assessment.
     
  5. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    the chain is marked as it's a modern addition, but the mount isn't as it used to be a part of a victorian bracelet, I've seen a lot of examples of solid gold thus being too confident that I forgot to ask the seller to confirm. Hopefully I ll received their reply tomorrow, otherwise I ll just pay another visit
     
    Any Jewelry and johnnycb09 like this.
  6. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    yes but also one mount remained well perserved that is more golden than others. And tiny gold leaf falling off from the base when scratched by fingernail. Considering the soldering, most of my gold piece will only be darkened comparing to this one which becomes brighter?I think maybe resulted from less abrasion between links. Definitely some coating there, but unsure about the base metal...
     
    Any Jewelry likes this.
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Could it have been regilt to improve appearance of soldered places?
     
    Any Jewelry, kyratango and mirana like this.
  8. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    additional information: the hallmark on the chain is italian, so I assume even the alternation is vintage
     
    Any Jewelry and Bronwen like this.
  9. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Are those moonstones ?
     
    Bronwen likes this.
  10. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Yeah probably and definitely gilt since the supposed 9ct mount looks more golden than the 14ct chain. The piece just looks strange to me but based on my research on similar item and the reputation of this shop I don't believe it will be silver or base metal gilt, but I will discuss with the seller and see how he thinks on it!
     
    Any Jewelry and Bronwen like this.
  11. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Yes, believed to be victorian as there are some silimar pieces you can find online, and the crafting is beautiful, that's why I didn't even doubt about the authenticity of the metal and only found out these at home!
     
    kyratango and Bronwen like this.
  12. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    It looks just unbelivable on skin! If you are there you won't doubt it at all, I think:)
     

    Attached Files:

    • 3.jpg
      3.jpg
      File size:
      196.7 KB
      Views:
      63
  13. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    An update on this post: I took it to the shop today, they have it tested again using both electronic test and acid test, turns out that it's 14ct with 22-24ct gilding. Happy ending then! Thank you for your comments, please do enjoy this photo of this beauty.
     

    Attached Files:

    • 4.jpg
      4.jpg
      File size:
      449.5 KB
      Views:
      47
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is certainly a beauty, and a wonderful outcome, congratulations.:happy:
     
    johnnycb09, kyratango and Bronwen like this.
  15. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Thank you!:D
     
    johnnycb09 and Any Jewelry like this.
  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Looking at the full size photo Bronwen posted, I think it could be late Georgian, 1820s-30s, but let's wait for other opinions.
     
    johnnycb09 and Bronwen like this.
  18. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I just bought it as antique so dont really get any idea how old it exactly is! From the record on an oline auction site, they are mostly tagged as (late) victorian to edwardian, but I did find a brooch stated georgian with very similar claw setting, but whenever it was made, I still feel super lucky to have it at that price!
     

    Attached Files:

  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ohhh, that's nice !!!
     
    johnnycb09, Bronwen and shamster like this.
  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Early nineteenth to my eye and gorgeous. Someone added the chain to suit modern necks.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: possible piece
Forum Title Date
Antique Discussion Difficult, If Not Impossible, Ink on Leather Sig and Italian Majolica Piece? Feb 12, 2022
Antique Discussion Can you help identify this possible antique piece? Mar 18, 2017
Antique Discussion possible roman bronze bowl? Apr 29, 2024
Antique Discussion Possible Navajo ? Dec 4, 2023
Antique Discussion Old jewelry box? What age and possible origin? Jun 9, 2023

Share This Page