Antique Paintings

Discussion in 'Art' started by Gregory R, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    haha just razzing you back in fun don't get your panties in a knot
     
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  2. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yes ^^THIS IS TRUTH.

    Fabulous paintings! Sucks bricks to have to hide them away. Sorry to hear you are in a difficult country for your amazing perview of Picasso and his work, and your knowledge of art in general must not wither unappreciated. I sensed this in you regarding the chair and have referred others to you for your opinion on their pieces, not sure if they ever followed through or not, but I appreciate your mind and sensibilities. Thank you for being here.

    I cannot see the entire sculpture (the attachment is absent), nor can I see the name at the bottom well enough to help with that. Is it marble? You'd stand a better chance of identification from other members who have more figural knowledge than I do - by making a new thread to ask about that one item.

    Plus this thread is already so special as to your Picasso research :singing:
     
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  3. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    thank you antidiem , I was trying to post some more picks of the statue ,when I plugged my phone into my computer it didn't recognize it and said I needed to buy the program for acrobat reader lol I think it was from the last update because it always worked for me before that ,I was able to take some pics with my camera but I can't find my cord to plug it into the computer as soon as I find it I will post them , it's pretty dirty and I'm going to clean it up sorry the pic I was able to post is so small I used the ones I sent to my son on facebook messenger , will post some bigger ones asap. ps I will make a post for it insead of this post like komo said it's an old post .
     
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  4. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    you are not wrong it's been a struggle for ten years now. I have taken a few years off because I have exhausted all my ideas to get it authenticated and have to come up with new ways . It's very hard to get a picasso authenticated , but I knew that the day I bought it .It's the hardest thing I have ever tried to do and I have learned that the fine art market is crooked as fk the experts just take your money and give an opinion that isn't worth anything to anybody and they want the money upfront no refunds lol . And yes I do like to show it off because it is painted by Picasso the greatest artist in the world . I'm sorry you can't appreciate that but others can.
     
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  5. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    ps I'm not sure if it is marble or some other kind of stone ,shouldn't marble have some other colors than just white like black spots , it's definitely heavy enough to be marble.and I thought it was charibs but it's not ,just a male and a female ,there is a piece of cloth that comes out the back but it's part of his robe not a wing hehe
     
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  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Totally agree and while I suspect you need no encouragement, I still do encourage you to keep at it. How about an idea to publish your work in a "vanity press" book? The "written word" always lends credence to anything. This will put it all into perspective for anyone who takes the next professional look, and will help to make the informational comparisons and details concise for everyone in the future.

    Whomever they are, your heirs will appreciate having a book about it written by you to document everything. A thin, good-sized format slick paper book will add value to your quest. I can't exactly explain it better than this, but I've found that anytime an artist or their artwork is written about, their work increases in credibility and value. I used to be the art and music columnist for a weekly newspaper, so I know this to be a fact about written publication.
     
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  7. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    your not wrong , I was thinking a podcast to get it out there and somewhat protect myself ,this could be life threatening to me and my family .
     
  8. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yes, but the future is offline. A book is longer lasting. Can use a ghost writer name. BEFORE you online anything about it in a podcast, you must protect yourself and your piece with the written word and photographs in order to retain the truth of it, and not be sued for something you never said or did.

    This is the reason musicians make a "studio" type CD version of their work - to protect it before they release it. I find anything that involves modern technology to be extremely unreliable. To even produce an honest podcast without being hacked or thwarted is difficult nowadays. Can make a podcast for questions about the book, get more future viewers by that method. Or just keep it all together with the piece.
    Just my last 2cents. You are welcomed to message me.
     
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  9. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    As I was going thru the photos once again, I noticed the man sitting to the right in the B&W photo may be playing a concertina? His thin sandals are distinctive too..
     
  10. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    your 2 cent are very valuable and make a lot of "cents" I never thought of it that way,it was just an idea I was kicking around (of coarse I wouldn't show my face ) but ya the hackers I was hacked a few months ago on facebook and it was absolutely terrifying for me ,they got everything I have ever put up and it was a lot ,they tried to con my friends for money (they were selling my motorcycles and my brother joe fell for it to the tune of $3000 before he called me and I had to break the bad news to him) and they can keep it going forever changing the name and emails they hacked , thank you for your advice , want a job haha lololol.I hired a writer (self published ) too help me but he moved out of town (he was a terrible speller lol) and I wasn't sure what format it needed (interview style or first person account ) I do like your suggestion of a ghost writer .I think the book could be worth as much as the painting itself , I was kicking an Idea around of giving it back to the family for a finders fee and the rights to do a book/movie .and I would have money to do this movie DSC00470.JPG
     

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  11. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    he is a student of Pablo and a famous painter
     
  12. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I suggest first person account. I believe this format will best illustrate what you know and what you have learned.
     
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  13. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    yay good news ,I was able to hack my face book account back in the wee hour of the morning .He had an account on my phone and he logged out and I swooped in and retrieved every account back . He did a lot of changes to my facebook and I was able to message all my friends and family to let them know I hacked it back . Now I have to do damage control for the next few days .It was nice to know not many people fell for his bs. good thing most of my friends are either broke, couldn't care less ,or have never met me in person lol.
     
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  14. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    YAY for you and your account! TIMING IS EVERYTHING :cat:
     
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  15. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    2 – . All Antique Forum members, young, old and in between, will treat all other members with respect and be civil at all times, .
     
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  16. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    i was able to get my daughter to take photos and send them to me statue 3.jpg statue 5.jpg 412332465_405965205119272_4737508766309761407_n.jpg statue 1.jpg now I was able to do a search on google but haven't found this particular artist ,a friend has just suggested the first name maybe craig . FYI I made a post for it in art section
     
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  17. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    the group members have solved it for me it is resin cast .
    2manybooks :The original sculpture was by Louis August Moreau. Yours appears to be a cast reproduction. There are many examples on the web.
     
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  18. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    There is no magic formula to doing this other than persistence and diligence. I just have to find that one person that can help me bring it to light but finding that person is a hard thing to do rejection is high and it seems to be easier just to say no,even Claude and the administration rejected it based on a couple pictures and a black and white photo,wtf IMO this is not how you authenticate a painting , look at all the evidence and then make a judgment , you need to see it in person and/or investigate it , this is why I believe there is a conspiracy going on there are so many fakes and frauds that people are scared to help or go against the Picasso estate .This is a one in a million find and most people have a hard time believing it could happen at all .IMO the admin should request many pictures and then make a decision . This is what happens when there's a monopoly and dictatorship running the show .
    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
     
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