Antique Paintings

Discussion in 'Art' started by Gregory R, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    took a long time to find his handwriting was right there on it , I believe I have enough proof now and going to write to Paloma.
     

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  2. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    it's not the chair it's the painting on it ,if you have a problem with it ,it's your problem not mine .
     
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  3. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    The fingerprints have always looked good to me too, but you must have a master of this field confirm. I've always remembered your painting and actually my gut feeling intuition has always been that it's the real deal. The colors always looked right to me, along with the strokes. Please let us all know what more you discover! :)

    Never concern yourself with you 'old' your thread may already be. This is of no consequence in an "Antiques" forum! Most of us are always grateful to find out more information on a piece we've contemplated in the past. Thanks, Lloyd.
     
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  4. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    I know and thought you'd would want an update , a lady in that post said she loved Picasso and I said so do I and update it while showing where I'm at with it ,komo is just one of a few that have replied with sarcasm and hostility ,doesn't bother me ,I know it's the real deal lol it's been ten years counting and I will never give up lol, Claude has passed and I hope things at the amin. (Paloma is in charge now ) are going to change,I have already seen they accept usb mem sticks now which is great news I mean Claude said send a couple of pics and dimensions of it and then declines it lol who can tell if it's done by his dad with that little bit of that information ,but now they have my address and know where I live ,check this guys experience with them, we are members of picassoclub.com
    27George Martha4 hours ago
    My name is George Martha I'm suing Claude ruiz Picasso in the federal court CT.
    For discriminating dictatorship and the meaning of the word public and authentic and ownership of two Picasso going on 9 years he has not answered but a few times he had his office worker ask me to donate my art to him.his rule is dictatorship says No-one can go auction but with his permission it violates World law and I'm headed for a upward spiral to change his dictator rule he traps over 500 million phds who went to school to be able to authenticate Picasso's work none of then would have picked that field if they knew they could not do there training and how many of them may have killed themselves or turned ti drugs hopelessness after studying all then years only to find out one man a dictator have a extortion on the world saying nobody can go auction but with my permission that's wrong when the world leaders signed off on nobody shall dictate to another human being on Earth they didn't say about Cloud Picasso can make a dictator rule to stop people from selling their paintings in America or in the world he's a real dictator he's a home invasion expert if you don't report him to the FBI CIA Homeland Security Department of Defense he's going to have somebody home invade you he's the ringleader of home invasions and kidding I found a case in Concord California that's why I reported them A man was murdered and Christie's Auction House he showed it a Picasso we found in dumpster very rare one they're all rare but he was murdered a week later after she showed Christie's Auction House San Francisco his painting a week later murdered in his own living room you're in deep trouble you're not in you're not you're not going to be rich he violates the Eighth Amendment when you have Picasso when you find it you think you're going to be rich you dreams and hopes all fall down and drink mental torture he only authenticates for the rich and galleries not the poor he takes from the poor he knows his dad lives here for 8 years before he died any other puppets that work in auction houses now I'm patriotic puppets and they get commissions to sell your private information they take a five line up name phone number telephone number address send us pictures once they find out it's real you're in trouble you're not safe if this really real you're not safe I have two I have the most rare sculpture in the planet Earth given to that Tycoon Lee Albert M i g l i n of Chicago I was a shoeshine man for 8 years the most rare sculpture on Earth I own it looted out of Adolf Hitler's house by Sherman Pratt Soldier I sent the letter I made the mistake by sending letter to France to him from Sherman Pratt that came with the sculpture when I sent it to him he kept me kicked out every auction house in the world due to the Rarity of the sculpture and I owned the last painting for Castle ever painted alive the most rarest valuable painting on the planet Earth of all artists only dated 1973 and do the rest of that piece he won't let me watching he won't answer me he's got me an email block he's been playing with me telling his secretary to donate to work he's a billionaire because he's killing people for these works robbing them home invasions inside jobs they get to know your family members these people are secret society billionaires they can do what they want I don't know and I can't go two auction if I say my name to hang up I have a 96 lb meter right I can't go auction $1,000 a gram I have Paul gauguin I can't go auction tycoons don't have knockoffs and I signed his men for 8 years I was a private shoe shine boy he said these are for your retirement kid don't let nobody steal them then my house burned down the paintings were in storage the sculpture survived the fire and I have no paperwork so that's a create new Providence although Cloud Picasso and Friends knows that I'm the owner of these things you won't acknowledge me and he doesn't stick to his rules his rules is either I buy or I have authenticate he's a liar a thief a killer a silent killer I'm telling you to live in truth I'm the Patriotic I honor the dead soldiers that died of War stop dictators from inflicting dictation on human beings and you're being dictated if you want to join me in the federal court you can my phone my name is George Martha you can have my Picasso sculptures worth lots of money a fist and hand sculpture one like it in the Moma Museum in Manhattan she has a bracelet on her wrist called my last Lady 1953 she was designed from mine there's only three in the world I have one of them it start at 91 million to end at 4:51 million I'll give you 400 Grand the painting prices can't put a tag on it last one ever painted on Earth I'll give it to you for 100 thousand my legal name is George Martha I'm a good man and I'm also soon the main Authority for Monet paintings I'll sell you a Monet for 100 grand they rejected me paperwork because he told them to he said until he donates don't let him go auction don't give him paperwork for nothing he told everybody that auction houses main authorities for Monet for Paul gauguin
    I'm not playing kids number 22 CV 3847 w h o George Martha versus guy w i l d e n s t e i n defendant he's the main Authority a race horse breeder a billionaire and a dangerous man that had somebody shoot at my painting outside my house he had a cat burglar come into my house and going to my mom's room that both son of a b**** bring the painting outside while I was on vacation for 2 months shot it with a silencer according to the police cuz nobody reported gunshots shot three times in the Fatal position upside down l from the heart down to the belly three times with a 32 Caliber didn't go through the walls and didn't go through from the outside to the inside the outside to hit my neighbor's house 32 Caliber would have went through the walls at least through my walls but they didn't they came in and they shot it and he paid somebody a lot of money to do this morning shots for me to back off from the lawsuit because I'm winning ownership authenticity dictatorship the meaning of the word public you can't change your alternate public restroom means public restroom the same as public auction you don't need permission to go auction with these people extort the world so they can make money so they get home in a day so they can kill and take you don't have to kill the take they're going to kill you I'm telling you these people are bad your life is in danger my friend if you don't report this to the FBI you're in danger if you don't report it to the CIA you're in danger if you don't report to the Department of Defense the United Nations and the world Court I'm telling you you're in danger you're not safe your life is something your life is on the line right now you see I'm joking I got holes in my security gates people try to get in my house many times these are people from the auction house puppets silent killers that sell your information they're home invasion experts they're not just art experts they're desperate killers that want money commission to get commission and they sell your private information to third world country wealthy people that pays people from the French Foreign Legion to come out here and take you out man their professional cat burglars I'm telling you the truth man I'll send you pictures of my Monet I got three bullet holes in it the judge has before and after pictures of the thing it didn't have bullet holes in it when I found it at the estate sale 350 weeks ago I should have been rightfully in auction 350 weeks ago but the auction house told me I need to go to this guy to get paperwork to go to auction his permission that's dictatorship I'm suing them for dictatorship discrimination the meaning of the word public means just that you can't alternate it the violating the power of congress the violating because the Library of Congress made the definition of public and it means nobody needs permission to answer that's what my case is about I'm not going to lose that's why they shot at my money there's a warning shots and I'm not going to bow down I don't I don't negotiate with terrorists I honor the dead Souls that died at War to stop dictators from dictating him human beings and I won't spit in their faces or the families f*** Club Picasso tell him I said that you'll never have a chance because you're either going to get killed by him home invaded or robbed beat up something is going to happen to you behind that Picasso if you don't do what I say I've been going through this for 10 long years I've been waiting for that son of a b**** to answer he's violating the 8th Amendment cruel punishment mental language is driving me f** mad he's lucky I can't get my hands around his neck I don't like to go they say he's a sweet man good man don't do s*** like this he made my dad watch me suffer till the day he died my dad said I don't like doing his torture in my mentally sick son I'm going to live but I'm not stupid from a tumor my PhD in Fine Arts self-taught I'm better than any <email> I'll tell you if you have a real Picasso or not and nobody's better than me he hates me because I own the last painting his dad ever painted the life is jealous of me he won't pay for it man he's not sticking to his rules and he's being sued for 400 million in federal court and I'd like you to join me I need you to join me your Patriotic Man you'll join me let's say this he is a dangous man with anarchy power with a good alibi ". second part coming I will go get it . end
    I know what he means because I'm experiencing the same sort of thing cold shoulders

    .I have learned so much it the last 10 years about Pablo Ruiz AKA Picasso ,Biro analized the paint and it's spot on ,it is painted in elements and that is why it looks like it was painted yesterday as all his and other artist from that era. I think it's a first draft dora maar woman with bird there are 2 names for that painting, seated woman and woman with bird , I have found his handwriting and I think his inventory number or letters .I took it to a fingerprint x law enforcement ,he was awesome, will post him and what he said >He was skeptical at first (pics I sent him) but after spending time with it he said to Nick and I that he understand why we are pursuing the artist of it ,( he couldn't get ridges because it's painted with 200 years old horse hair brushes and old paint,and ,then he replied laughing "they probably ate the horse after". he was convinced after that ,but he never signed on the dotted line hehe he can't and what does it matter ,just for my book lol, he said i can put it in with his name . DSC00161.JPG thumbnail_IMG_4128 - Crop adjust.jpg DSC00161.JPG thumbnail_IMG_4128 - Crop adjust.jpg DSC00161.JPG thumbnail_IMG_4128 - Crop adjust.jpg
     
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  5. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    sending Shane's report next , having a little trouble finding it lol , I move files around a lot I found it in a file but it won't cut copy and paste for it .. .l believe I posted it awhile ago in another post , when I had it done also.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    No Sir......it still looks like you have the problem !
     
  7. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I am convinced. Had no idea the harassment but totally believable. Are you in Connecticut? I can personally attest to the fact that having nice things of special nature in the deep south where I live - can get one killed in today's world. I don't understand why your stuff hasn't been stolen already? Mine has. Personally, the level of security we must maintain as ordinary collectors is ridiculously high and we don't have anything famously made. Expensive modern day devices gets thieves through any lock and no thief ever backed away from setting off wired alarm systems. As tenacious as I am, I am suddenly rather grateful I've never found anything of very high value, as I'd not know how to sell it, or even how to ask about it, without being killed. I support you on your journey and please never hesitate to contact me, I've minor experience with USA agencies and legalities through my own ongoing adventures. I will always want to know what happens and that you survived it. +Looking forward to your book!
     
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  8. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    View attachment 465709 what do you guys think of this statue I bought from the same place as my painting it weights 22 lbs and is 22 inches high. $30

    I'm in Canada in a little city of 42,000 ish with 3 thrift stores that are run with filipino workers that have no idea what they have and most of the people don't care or don't know and don't have our eyes for treasures In the middle of f ing nowhere hehe lol, I love it . I have another piece I bought that I'm trying to get some pics up to show you your going to love it as much as me I'm sure .it's a statue 22 inches tall and made of carved some kind of white stone weighing in at 22 lbs, charibs i think, the signature there and starts with GUST then a space with a semi-colon and a middle letters are smeared a bit . and then a few more letters , trying every thing to get pics up and nothings working hehe , as soon as I find my cord for the canon I will make a post k. View attachment 465709 406765941_2004354610072971_7058582008433556497_n.jpg
     
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  9. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    what do you guys think of this statue I bought from the same place as my painting it weights 22 lbs and is 22 inches high.
    he he I did that comment last night didn't think it came up lol, ya if i was in the US it would be done now as I could bring it to whomever and drop it in their laps lol .
     
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  10. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    but they won't let me in because I'm a dangerous felon , I sold 2 grams of weed to an undercover cop in 1979 at a U2 concert lol .
     
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  11. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    This painting is all it's cracked up to be ,it brings out every emotion known from a to z it's crazy hehe .like Pablo Ruiz Picasso said "everything you can imagine is real".
     
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  12. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    clearly Picassos hand ,brushes ,brushstrokes ,paints , 8.JPG Screenshot 2022-09-24 090602.png Screenshot 2022-10-06 202956.png Screenshot 2022-11-01 024140.png Screenshot 2022-11-23 221413.png Screenshot 2022-11-26 120033.png
     
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  13. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    I red this article from the google art project that states "brushstroke are the artist fingerprints (as an artist myself I couldn't agree more) and it sent me in a new direction. So I took my camera and as close as i could get to it pictures from top to bottom and did side by side comparisons.Wow what an awakening ,everything to prove it's his work was right on it the whole time what an amazing piece of art .he paints from the inside out layer after layer until a picture comes out . DSC09301.JPG
     
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  14. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    I have looked through a lot of books to try to find it ,I thought this was it but the rungs on this chair are lower than mine,same middle rung missing clearly a chair in the mists of being painted by a famous artist around the same era thumbnail_my chair  unpainted.jpg
     
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  15. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    dora marr with bird origanal.jpg
    I have been a victim of crime many times ,It is not in my house but hidden away in a basement in a blanket and a box , it's a shame as it needs to be seen by the public in a museum hopefully it will make it there someday .Dora Maar woman with bird is in the private collection of this guy where no one but him and his guests will see it.he bought it for 50 mill.Like George I believe there is a conspiracy as I have endured the same as him experts shut down don't return calls or emails ,museums won't touch it ,authenticators can only give an opinion for large sums of non returnable deposits .lot of them in denial , all caused from defrauding (so they say) in the art markets .IDK Picasso made it so there was no doubt it's his work if you find the clues .
     
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  16. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    the hostility is real
    Faox Catcher
    2 years ago
    So it looks like Matte is also Art Detectives, peddling a poorly rendered Picasso. The painting looks like the Ebay stock being produced in Peru.

    Sure enough, there’s Lloyd and his stupid chair
    If only this forum had mods.

    my reply
    haha I never said this was or wasn't picasso lol IMO I don't think it is .


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    Art Detectives
    2 years ago
    Dear Faox Catcher,

    It seems that you know nothing about Pablo Picasso, please study before you write in this forum.

    Best regards,
    Art Detectives
    2 years ago


    Dear Lloyd,

    Okey, thank you very much!
    We must hope that Bob are fine!

    About the painting, I think you are right. Your opinion is important!! I know you have been in this forum for many years, so you must have a great knowledge about Picasso.

    Best regards,Elvira in Paris

    some like me some don't what can you do eh lol
     
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  17. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    no, you are the one that came here and was rude to me .
     
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  18. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    you could have just scrolled on past it , no reason to say what you did .
     
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  19. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    . your not the only person here, and you don't speak for everyone.
     
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  20. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    inquiry minds want to know lol
     
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