Weasel tail

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  1. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Something you don’t want to be called, unless you’re a Blackfoot chief.

    Any idea what this is? Was in containers of vintage women’s hats, scarves, and accessories I bought. Around a pony tail maybe? Hat brim? Just guesses. E9C11DDD-55EB-4663-9214-FD631A96ED3D.jpeg 7689FC5F-D450-4C23-8287-650145829B25.jpeg
     
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  4. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    They are both wild-I'd say it's millinery Dag and it does appear Ermine.
     
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  5. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

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  6. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I can’t imagine how it would work other than the hat brim being the meat in a weasel tail bun. Is that it, or am I missing something?
     
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Weasels' coats turn white in winter. When they're white, we call them ermine.
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Weasels and ermine are two different animals, at least here in Europe. I know American terminology can be different.
    Overhere weasels are smaller than ermine.

    The Latin name for weasel is 'mustela nivalis', for ermine it is 'mustela erminea'. Ermine is also known as stoat. I believe it is called stoat when it is brown, and ermine when it is white. That difference in names is English, in Dutch it is called 'hermelijn', whatever colour.
    You are right about the ermine's seasonal colour change, although that depends on the climate. In a warmer climate they don't change colour, or they get a spotted pelt.
     
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  9. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Anybody remember the movie "Gorky Park"? I believe it was about smuggling Russian Ermine out of Russia.

    Look up pictures of Royals and you'll see them wearing Ermine.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Wasn't it Russian mink? Minks are related to weasels and ermines.

    Edit: I just checked, it was sable fur. Sables are like martens, so bigger than weasels, ermines and minks.
     
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  11. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I stand corrected. I remember thinking at the time about sable paint brushes and how expensive they are.
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are. Good to have in your set if you're a painter though.

    Sable fur was one of the important trade goods from Russia during the time of the Hanseatic league, that is always my association.
     
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  13. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    I agree with bosko that it's ermine millinery ornament/trim. I have a similar piece with a little brass clip that holds it together, and a straight pin in the back to attach it to a hat.
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Still one of my all time favourite Hurt movies.... & yes..Sable....but the movie was about an honest Russian policeman fighting corruption....
     
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  15. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    I used to paint w/ W&N Kolinsky sable brushes,superb watercolor tool.
     
  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Shades of toad of toad hall.
     
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