1873 Princeton Costume

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by Kronos, Nov 8, 2023.

  1. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    Marked Princeton 73 on the front. Two men standing by another guy in some type of costume. Fake hands, tall hat, on stilts or a box. Any meaning? Photo was in the Culver archives at one time. pri.jpg pri2.jpg
     
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  2. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    Well, I guess they are not college students. I don't know if the tall guy is standing on something. It sort of looks like a legit photo. There is a Culver Pictures Inc in Long Island. You could try to contact them. I thought Debra would have some ideas. She is really good with this type of thing.
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  4. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    It does not look like an original 19th century photograph - but a copy, or print from an old negative. All of the info on the back is modern - bar code, zip code, phone number, etc. As ulilwitch suggests, contacting them might prove fruitful. They might have cataloging information explaining the subject. (But they might want it back!)
     
  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Do you think it was deaccessioned or just not returned? The postal code dates it to no older than 1983.

    Debora
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Agree re contacting Culver.

    Debora
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not returned..... they may have a hissy fit !
     
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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Think of it as a library book. Perhaps a small fine? ;)

    Debora
     
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  9. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    That is a bizarre, and somewhat scary image.
     
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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Ivy League high jinks. Someone ordered it to reproduce so someone may have information on context.

    Debora
     
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  11. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Nov 9, 2023
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  12. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Is it an albumen print mounted on a heavier stock?
     
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  13. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    Yes. Well, its on what's left of the original mount. Culver went and peeled the top layer off mounts for many of their older images. Probably to make them easier to store and take up less space, since they were dealing with millions of images. They were focused on the image itself, not how it was presented. I have cabinet cards that they did the same thing to.
     
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  14. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    Here's a cabinet card that they did the same to. Looks to have been acquired by Culver earlier than the Princeton photo, with the information stamped on.

    hawl.jpg hawl2.jpg
     
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Ah ha...a match !
     
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  16. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Fixed the exposure a bit...just because.

    pri.jpg
     
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  17. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    That looks better. :)
     
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  18. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    William Roe Howell, a New York photographer, was commissioned as class photographer at Princeton in 1869-1870 and 1872-1873. He produced albumen prints.

    This photograph appears to be taken in the same location, based on the trees and shrubbery -
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    https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.25290/prinunivlibrchro.60.3.0401

    https://www.princeton.edu/~graphicarts/2012/03/princeton_in_stereo.html

    The fellow who is third from the left, front row, looks like one of the men in your photo. The others are probably there, too.
     
  19. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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  20. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

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