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  1. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Looks like a US ring, with that 14k mark. The other marks are probably the manufacturer and maybe retailer.
    Maybe one of our US members can find the marks.
     
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  2. Jb89

    Jb89 Member

    thank you! How do I figure out if it’s full or half?
     
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  3. Jb89

    Jb89 Member


    My Oma was born in Indonesia! But then lived in Holland. So yes to Dutch connection! I’m not sure if there are any markings.
     

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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Wonderful.:) Do you know where in Indonesia?
    Is the Dutch necklace also from her side of the family?

    Marks can also be on the loop or on the ring.
     
  5. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The full Sovereign is larger than the half but the designs are the same with no denomination on either.
    As I said previously, just weigh it on a gram scale.

    Full 7.99 grams
    Half 3.99 grams
     
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  6. Jb89

    Jb89 Member

    I’m not sure where in Indonesia, but yes this is from her Dutch side. I have taken few more photos but don’t see much.
     

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  7. Jb89

    Jb89 Member

    I also have this necklace pendant from other side of the family.
     

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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The indentations on the back of the central part look like they could be marks?

    I do see that the backs of the crescent shapes are covered with some kind of resin. Although I've never seen that before on this type of necklace, it looks period.
    In the 19th century natural resin was often used to strengthen hollow gold jewellery.
    Very sweet. Given the 14k mark I suspect it is US made.
     
  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I've done this easy clue for you.
    These are my coins.
    You must have some US coinage nearby ?

    The Full Sovereign is a tad larger than a Nickel
    The Half Sovereign is a tad larger than a Dime.



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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like a sand dollar....
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    sorry @Bronwen ...I missed this remark....:oops:
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Think we would just call them gold spacer beads, but they are also useful for making ends of bead strands look tidier.

    When I saw the sand dollar pendant, my first thought was this jeweller:

    https://breakell.com/14kt-sand-dollar-pendant/

    However, many seem to make them.
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are used for the ends of bead strands. The ends are secured with lacquer or seal wax.

    In Dutch spacers are called tussenringetjes, but these end thingies are lakbolletjes.
    The -etjes suffix makes these words diminutive, we love diminutives.:playful:
     
  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    And you are a bit embarrassed because...? I assure you I am not miffed about anything, & you are quite right that it's a sand dollar. It's the novelty spoon I was proposing as a souvenir of an ocean side trip. :kiss:
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    where u mention the claw !!!:kiss:
     
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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    But you raised the question of type of claw. I thought tiger most likely, but left it at 'claw' because I wasn't sure. Claw jewellery seems to be routinely described as tiger; wonder if all of it actually is, or if lions are getting short shrift. Now that we know the Dutch Indies connection, probably safe to say this one is tiger.
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you're describing a type of 'bead tip' I have not seen here. I favor knot cups over clam shells because I never get the 2 halves of the shell lined up. Either needs a dab of glue or nail polish to reinforce the knot. Is the sticky built in to the ones you show?
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I just checked, they use shellac. In jewellery supplies shops you can buy thin rods of shellac. You heat the 'lakbolletje' and with it you scoop the end of the rod into the lakbolletje. While the shellac is soft you push the thread knot into the shellac.
    This is the traditional way here, which was used on antique necklaces. It is very secure.
     
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Don't think shellac is something generally available from beading supply places here. Thanks for the very interesting explanation.
     
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