Featured Tin Glaze Fluted Dish - Dutch ????

Hello.
I've recently come across this fluted dish, which is being advertised by the seller as an Imari dish from the Meiji period - which it obviously aint !
I've collected one or two antique tin glaze ceramic items on my travels, and am currently deliberating whether to splash out and buy this dish or not - subject to inspection. The design and colours quite appeal to me, although the asking price much less so.

Anyway - I feel that it is of European origin, possibly Dutch. Maybe 18th or early 19th century ??? I've tried to identify the maker's mark on the web, but with no success so far.

I'd be grateful to hear what the more educated members on the forum have to say.

Any assistance will be gratefully appreciated.

 

Did you see this one on eBay?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/173847189738

Debora

 

Amazing !!! Many thanks indeed for a lightning fast reply.
The patterns are obviously identical, although the dish offered to me appears to have no damage on the underside. I did a search on current eBay items and quite by chance discovered another plate with an identical marking. If the listing details are accurate, it would appear that the maker was Tischelaar Makkum, which is interesting to know.
As the price of the dish I'm considering buying is around a quarter of the above seller's 'Buy it Now' price (and in better nick), I'll have to give this matter some further consideration.

Thank you once again for taking the time to assist me with my query !

 

It is important to know that the Makkums style was always a bit behind Delfts, so it often looks older than it is.

Tichelaar doesn't have an s btw. Tichelaar means tile maker, which is how they began to make ceramics.

 

Apologies ! I stand corrected.

 

Beautiful dish. You better snaffle it quick before someone else does. I am tempted

 

I'm away from my books right now but I believe it would date no earlier than than late-ish 19th C.

 

Forgot to add, the 'ch' in Tichelaar is pronounced the same as the Scottish pronunciation of 'ch' in 'loch'.

 

Back home from visiting many of those "lochs" in lovely Scotland! Back to my reference material.

Here is a bit about the Makkum Tichelaar crossed "T" mark and hopefully the text will be clear enough.

Before 1868 there was "no significant or consistent mark". The crossed "T" mark started 1868. It describes how in accordance with the McKinley Tariff Act, some pieces were marked "Holland" starting in 1891 however most were not and continued using the simple crossed "T" until 1948.



From "Discovering Dutch Delftware" by Van Hook.

 

So it could even be as recent as late 19th century ? Who would have thought?...not me for one !
Many thanks for the additional info !

 

Sometime between 1868 and 1948 based on the mark. "IF" all pieces also had a factory number as mentioned above then it would narrow it to 1868-1901.

I have some Makkum pieces myself and like the older style.

 

That's Makkums for you, always later than it looks.

Ditto. I prefer generally Makkums over Delfts.

 

Here is my similar Makkum piece. (Had to locate it after I put it away due to the curiosity of my young cats)

 

Sorry to hijack the thread but do you think this might be tichelaar also?

 

well, now that's a little eye candy , isn't it !!!!

 

Some misidentified china and pottery on ebay could be real winners -- at least in the old days.

 

I'm probably wrong, but I suspect it may be of Italian origin.

 

Yes you are probably right. That was my initial thoughts until I saw this thread and saw the similar mark..

 

I see why you ask as the mark is similar. I'm no expert but the Makkum pieces I'm familiar with are very "Dutch" looking and I agree yours seems more Italian looking.

I've no idea if Makkum ever made such pieces for souvenir ware or the like. They are still in business so you could ask.

These are some of my Makkum pieces so you can see the look I'm talking about.

 

Ditto.

Agree.
Makkum is a typical northern Dutch Protestant town, it is unlikely you'll find angels on their ceramics. Your average Frisian would consider that Catholic, which to them is equal to heathen.

Wonderful collection, sis. Love the "knobbelvazen".