Featured Ormolu?

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Mattyuk, Sep 5, 2023.

  1. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Hi everyone
    I'm new here so please go easy on me! I know nooothing about antique furniture :(

    I have inherited a table and am trying to work out what it is. It appears to be almost identical to https://www.maryleboneantiques.co.u...e-french-mahogany-leather-console-side-table/ but I'm a bit sceptical about the brass coloured "ormolu" mounts/mouldings. Mine seem to be made of a kind of glued wood mulch painted brass colour, rather than an actual metal, and held on with little pins.

    Can anyone shed any light on what that means? Is it a 1930s french table like the one in the link above, or is it something else? I've attached some photos. I'm in the UK. The "ormolu" is on three sides only like the one on the link shown.

    Any help greatly appreciated I couldn't find anything in any of the forums.
     

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  2. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Your console table does look quite similar to the one in your link. The time period would indeed be 1930-50s. I imagine the wood is mahogany. Ormolu is gilt metal, so I don’t know if yours is a less expensive version, or if the one in the link has had the ormolu material misidentified.
    Just FYI antique furniture must generally be at least 100 years old. So I would call it a revival piece ca. 1940s.
     
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  3. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Thanks Ghopper. Do you know what this kind of gold colour papier-mache type moulding might be? Does it have a name?
     
  4. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    I don’t know if it has an official name. How about “faux ormolu?”
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Or goldtone molding?
     
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  6. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Ok thanks both. I might take a casting and make a replacement with plaster of paris, or I might just sell the thing - too many projects at the moment!
     
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  7. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    A quick further question if I may - I'd like to give it a bit of a clean up. I guess just basic furniture polish for the wood, but what is a safe way to clean up the leather on top? I don't want to stain it as it looks nice
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Saddle soap is made for leather. Put some of the soapy mixture on a cloth, making sure the cloth isn't moist, just damp, and rub on the stains.

    If you can't find saddle soap, a very mild, unscented handsoap also works. And again, only a damp cloth, you don't want the leather to get wet.

    After you clean it, use a transparent leather cream. No colour. Ask the shop which product is best for the leather you have.

    If the leather is very dry now, the tone could get slightly darker, but not much. It will also get a richer, creamier look.
    Over time, as you polish the leather regularly, it will get a beautiful patina. Leather is like wood, it is influenced by whatever you do with it, and it will age beautifully if treated right.
     
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  9. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Thanks AJ - that's appreciated.
     
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  10. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Another silly question. If I'm trying to recreate the moulding using plaster of paris or similar, what would you suggest is best to get the gold/bronze colouring afterwards? Applied gold leaf or paint? Or is there something better? I'm planning on taking a mould using a moulding silicone. (Cited from: https://www.antiquers.com/threads/ormolu.80338/)
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Applying gold leaf isn't easy, and I don't think the other "ormolu" decorations were made using gold leaf.
     
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  12. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    that's interesting. wikipedia says the below. Might be a bit beyond my skillset! Maybe some gold paint would be easier. Thing is plaster castings are a bit rubbish without a decompression chamber thing to suck out the bubbles. Maybe I can created a diy one...

    Ormolu (/ˈɔːrməluː/; from French or moulu, "ground/pounded gold") is the gilding technique of applying finely ground, high-carat gold–mercury amalgam to an object of bronze, and for objects finished in this way. The mercury is driven off in a kiln leaving behind a gold coating

    but that can't be how mine were made anyway as mine are made of a wood pulp. I would guess they are either painted or gold leaf.
     
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very likely.;)
    I'll tag @kyratango for you, she is used to restoring items by thinking 'out of the box'.
    Exactly.
     
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  14. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Rubn’buff gilding wax, exists in several shades.
    Once you’ve made a mold of the existing piece, you can use bi-component paste used as “cold welding” for repairs, no bubbles and cures very hard.
     
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  15. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Cool. Thanks all
     
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  16. Mattyuk

    Mattyuk New Member

    Kyratango could you shed a bit more light on cold welding I can't find it online for non-metallic products? Remember mine is a wood pulp thing.

    See attached one of my broken pieces. What is considered more "de rigeur" - to just create a replica for the missing/broken off section and glue it back into what is left of the original to make a whole, or just to create a whole new piece? I'm thinking modelling clay at the moment. The former option would probably be pretty fragile.
     

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