Need help identifying African carver figure ca. 1890s

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  1. New Bowery

    New Bowery New Member

    I would greatly appreciate your help with any information about the origin of the figure shown in this 1890s cabinet card, presumably of the carver and his work.

    The photo is inscribed on image: "D[eemek Sorriah, Jupolo, Jarbuydju"

    Many thanks in advance. Untitled 5.detail.png Full..png
     
  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    wow , that's expensive !!!
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    if that carving , is that artists work...the photo sure doesn't display the carving in any meaningful sense.. imo
     
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  5. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    ‘Wow’ is right!
     
  6. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    For that type of money the buyer surely must have a ‘bigger’ or more personal interest in the image?
     
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe it has to do with the gentlemans hand.......?
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is usually a sawmill accident.:nailbiting: A lapse of attention? ADD?

    I buy all my veggies pre-cut, my attention deficit brain can't be trusted around kitchen knives. I have the scars to prove it.;)
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    So the question was... What is the origin of this figure? Know someone here will be able to help with that. (Not me.)

    Debora

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  10. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    With only one rather blurry view, I cannot be certain about the carving. The elaborate coiffure and rolls on the neck I would most often associate with female figures such as this example from a Baule (Cote d'Ivoire) carver -

    Baule female figure Nasher Museum  smaller.jpg
    https://emuseum.nasher.duke.edu/obj...4d144bd2e5bf028d91e7dd9ca9de2b0aef5ed55&idx=1

    It is not clear whether the figure in the photo has breasts, but they can be discreet on some Baule figures -

    Baule blolo bla female.jpg
    https://www.randafricanart.com/Baule_Blolo_bian_figure.html

    The cloth skirt might also argue for it being a female figure.

    The Mende of Sierra Leone also consider neck rolls signs of beauty. But based on the limited features that I can see, I think the style is more consistent with Cote d'Ivoire.
     
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  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I think he just has his fingers curled under.
     
  12. New Bowery

    New Bowery New Member

    It IS expensive. My interest in the photograph relates to the specific photographer and my interest in the subject is just curiosity. Thanks fo rthe help!
     
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  13. New Bowery

    New Bowery New Member

    Thank you, very helpful!
     
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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    According to the internet, African sculpture wasn't introduced in New York until 1914 so the carving pictured would likely have been seen as a very exotic object.

    Debora
     
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  15. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    We are always curious about the mysteries people bring here. If you are interested in telling us more about your research, I am sure we would be interested in learning about it.
     
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  16. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Displays of African cultures, including objects, buildings, and actual people, were included in the 1889 Exposition Universelle in Paris. The exhibits were so successful that the idea was copied at the Chicago Columbian Exposition in 1893, where a ranked series of displays was included on the Midway, ranging from the "least evolved" Dahomeans and Native Americans, through the Middle Easterners and Pacific Islanders, to the (almost as civilized as Americans) Japanese, Irish and Germans.

    https://1889parisworldfair.fandom.com/wiki/Culture_and_Anthropology

    https://smarthistory.org/worlds-columbian-exposition-midway/

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA96/WCE/title.html

    https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/the-people-products-of-colonization/
     
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  17. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I am tagging one of our members who is very good at dating cabinet photos from their mounts -
    @Figtree3, can you please confirm/give an opinion on the date of New Bowery's photograph?
     
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  18. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    As always, it would be helpful to see the back.

    Debora
     
  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Thanks for tagging me, @2manybooks !

    @New Bowery stated photo is from the 1890s, and I think that is correct. Possibly very late 1880s.

    It is possible that the subject has his fingers curled under. Looks like it from what I can see. However, Eisenmann was a very famous photographer who was known for his photos of oddness and deformities in humans. So it can't be ruled out, necessarily. It does strike me that the focus is on the carver and his work. I haven't tried to research the words written on the photo. May look into that soon!

    Wikipedia article about Eisenmann gives a good brief overview of what he was most known for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Eisenmann

    [Edit: I removed one statement I made because hadn't noticed the OP's photo is the same one as the one on eBay that @Debora linked.]
     
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  20. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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