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Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by charlie cheswick, Jul 13, 2023.

  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    couldnt believe my eyes when i found this today
    looks like it should be in a museum not a charity shop
    large 13 inch size
    wall hanging more than a plate i would think
    features are in relief
    im guessing saint george ?

    photos dont even do it justice
    and no damage, apart from some gilding wear around the edges

    any help on this would be greatly appreciated

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Magnificent, charlie!
    Or Ambiorix, who used to rule over my neck of the woods way back when. (Yes, it is Ambiorix time again!:woot::woot:)

    Ambiorix.jpg
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    In the glyptics world, this figure is Achilles:

    Achilles Grew.jpg

    However, the beard may make all the difference & St. George may be a good guess for your lovely plate. The art work rings a distant bell, but so far not coming up with it. I'd have grabbed him.
     
  4. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Thanks Aj and bronwen, st George doesn't seem to ring true, so both Good suggestions !

    I thought 19th century, unless that is a date on the back

    Don't know if that's in the realms of possibility
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It could be, given the quality. I'm sure one of the others will know.
     
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  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    It's awesome Charlie.I don't really know a thing about UK Pottery,but might it be in the same school as 19th (or earlier) Minton ? You might also check the art tile makers.
    Looks like something one would have seen in Lord Byron's chamber in Villa Diodati !
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think it is Continental European.:) Maybe German, or even Italian?
     
  8. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Interesting thought mate, there is something tile like about it

    Thought one would pop up on Google image
     
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  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Doesn't look like it in the pics, but the background colour is cobalt blue
     
  10. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    If it is Ambiorix, then quite possibly this is Belgian. Those impressed numbers are often seen on continental pottery. Lovely charger -- who put that in a charity shop?;)
     
  11. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    It's there,in the Charities,Boots & Garages-waiting for the hungry intelligent eye and lots of shoe leather.Charlie-You're going to have to redo your library in William Morris wallpaper !
     
  12. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Helluva Coup, Charlie!
     
  13. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Great find. Beautiful thing. Not sure about age. So the numbers are production or ‘model’ numbers?
     
  14. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  15. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Yeah I'm not sure about that mate either, I'm guessing the middle is mold number

    I would like to think the 1786 is a date Mark, but that might be wishful thinking

    I have seen old pieces stamped in that odd number style before though, like they've been done 1 number at a time at different levels
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not yer avg plate.....good find pal !
     
  17. KylieS

    KylieS Well-Known Member

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    Just throwing this obscure reference out there !

    The reference above is Portuguese - could Portugal or Spain be a possibility? They have amazing tile making traditions if you're seeing that influence.

    This is a magnificent piece!
     
  18. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Mama Mia. Lovely thingummy. Italian majolica I think perhaps. Or maiolica, as they spell it.
     
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  19. KylieS

    KylieS Well-Known Member

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    Hector has something approaching a dragon on his helmet here...not a common trope but quite a few images of Hector about with leaves as a symbol. Your guy has oak leaves on his helmet - is that a rowan branch on the right? The plants might be a clue since the helmet with dragon seems to be a common-ish device.
     
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  20. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    So it seems a few people walked round with winged beasts on their heads in the 'owden days.
     
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