Featured Help identifying blue and white large tankard

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Julie lake, Jun 27, 2023.

  1. Julie lake

    Julie lake New Member

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    Measures 14.5cm tall X 16cm wide X 12cm diameter
     
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  2. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Old/New ? It's in really good shape.Wiser eyes will soon be here.
     
  3. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Spode maybe?
     
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  4. Julie lake

    Julie lake New Member

    Spode was one of my thoughts, but I can't find this pattern anywhere, I know it's been in the family for at least 50 years I can remember it being in a Cabinet at grandparents.
     
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  5. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Looks older than 50 years to me. Late 19th early 20th perhaps?
     
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  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I’d think earlier than that, might even be early nineteenth. Some Staffordshire factory or other.
     
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  7. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Close to pristine,if early 19th-it's a beauty.I'd drink a good micro-brew out of that proudly !
     
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  8. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Can’t help but I just wanted to say, Julie, you photos are wonderful, good job!
     
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  9. Wendlekins

    Wendlekins Active Member

    C1850-1870 pearlware willow pattern I would say
     
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  10. Julie lake

    Julie lake New Member

    I think it's pearl ware but ruled willow pattern out as there are no flying doves, but there are 3 swans swimming, I am totally at a loss it seems to be a mix up of allsorts of scenes.
     
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  11. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    We have a pagoda too. Any boaty or bridge folk about?
     
  12. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

  13. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

    Could possibly be earlier.
     
  14. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    It's a nice one! I'm not positive it's pearlware, might just be a nice whiteware.

    I've looked at a lot of patterns so far, willow variants, two temples, temples, eastern views, whatever I can think of for names. I don't think I've seen it but as the patterns can vary depending on the type of item, not entirely sure.

    What I did want to say is that loopy walkway, roadway, bridge thing is rather unusual and might help narrow it down....

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  15. Julie lake

    Julie lake New Member

    Thankyou so much for taking your time to research this, must say the one you have found is of similar form, I have tried everything I can think of taking small parts of design and trying to find similar to no avail, think you could be correct as to pearl ware it has not got the blue tinge associated with it. I could not find a base the same found a few somewhat like but not the same blue and white really is a minefield.
     
  16. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I flipped through my books that could be helpful, they were not. I looked through though someone else might see something there that I missed.
    • Blue Willow by Gaston 3rd ed,
    • Flow Blue China by Gaston,
    • Romantic Staffordshire Ceramics by Snyder,
    • Dictionary of Blue and White Printed Pottery by Coysh & Henrywood Vol 1 & 2.
    As I was trying to bring out the blue mark on your base to see it's shape better, I notice some small indentations next to it and I wondered if you can tell if they are impressed letters. I can't tell but hope springs eternal.

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    I did want to say that I've seen a similar footrim before though at this moment I can only remember the Chinese porcelain ones I've seen. I'm not suggesting yours is Chinese. It's just the only type I can find right now.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11510321...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

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  17. Julie lake

    Julie lake New Member

    I cannot find any numbers or letters have just had it under spotlight looking through loupe, have took more photos of base, there are tiny spots that look almost crystalized.
     

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  18. Julie lake

    Julie lake New Member

    Cambrian have similar borders on some of their blue and white, just not this pattern
     
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