Identifying Waterford Lismore Glass Type

I inherited a set of crystal from a relative, and I know that it was bought at the Waterford factory in Ireland (I believe in the 1950-1970s but am not 100% certain about that). I believe the pattern in question is Lismore, but some glasses are broken and I can’t identify what type of glasses they are so I can try to replace them. They seem similar in shape to both the sherry and white wine glasses but don’t quite match any of the measurements I can find for those glasses (this also assumes I am right that the pattern is Lismore). The claret glass is similar in height, but not in shape or volume. 

The measurements for the glasses that I want to buy replacements for are:
- 5 5/8” tall
- 2 1/4” diameter (across top of glass/goblet)
- 1 3/16” diameter (base)
- 2” stem height
- 3 oz volume (to the brim)

Does anyone have any idea what this glass could be? Am I wrong about it being Lismore?

 

I'd think Brandy.........

https://www.replacements.com/search?query=waterford+lismore

 

Not brandy, Wrong shape. The brandy is rounded, not straight sided (at least from the Waterford booklet I have from when I was picking out mine in the 90s.) Does look like Lismore.

 

ok...the claret is straight up....right size tall.....but too wide ...
so...I'm befuddled !!

 

One more piece of data: I have confirmed these glasses were originally purchased in the first half of the 1950s. Does that help with identification?

Is it possible that that early on that white wine glasses or cocktail glasses might be this small? (I see that there used to be 4 oz white wine glasses, but you definitely can't fit 4 oz in these glasses...it's 3 oz and that's to the brim)

 

Hello @alex473 & welcome to the forum!!

You might try contacting the folks at Replacements Ltd. as they might be able to help you out.

Also, just checking to make sure that the pieces are marked with the acid-etched Waterford mark on the bottom.

https://www.hunker.com/13410894/how-to-identify-real-waterford-crystal

 

Hi bercrystal, thanks for the advice! They actually don't have the Waterford mark, but my understanding is that that was introduced in the 1970s or 1980s, so crystal before that won't have it. At any rate, I'm fairly convinced these are authentic since I inherited them from directly from a family member, and she told me that they were a wedding gift bought at the Waterford factory in Ireland (unfortunately, she is no longer living, so I can't follow up about the exact year, but it would have been in the first half of the 1950s). There were originally 40 glasses (8 each of 5 different types of glasses). In a twist, however, I think those other 32 glasses might be a different pattern (they look kind of like Boyne or Adare or Donegal, maybe, because they have the diamond-ish pattern on the bottom without the upright cut, and they have the ball shape on the stem--apologies for the description since I don't know the correct technical terms!). I think the other four glass types are cordial, tumbler, champagne/sherbet, and either water or wine). Are there any patterns that were available in the early 1950s this might match that might have a glass that matches as well?

 

I think your original suggestion of sherry glasses may be correct. Waterford's more recent sherry glasses have slightly different measurements but most descriptions state a capacity of 3oz, like yours.

 

Thanks, all, for your help! I reached out to Replacements.com and I was surprised by how quickly they got back to me (within 24 hours). Unfortunately, all I got back was "this looks close to Waterford Lismore, but might not be it since it doesn't quite match."

 

So, the mystery deepens... was looking again at the crystal glass today and happened to have my traditional tape measure out so I used it and came up with a different height measure of the glass. I originally had measured the glasses at 5 10/16" (or 5/8") tall using a sewing tape measure, but when I re-measured using a traditional tape measure, it came to 5 12/16" or 13/16" instead. I pulled them both out and, sure enough, the two tape measures do not align. They are off by close to 1/8" of an inch from one another! So, I'm not sure which is more accurate now (and, as noted, there is slight variation from one glass to the next anyway), so these glasses are anywhere from 5 10/16" to 5 13/6", and I'm not sure which is the more accurate measurement now.

I also found an old chart of the Lismore line, and started to wonder if the glasses I have might not be what is labeled as the 3 oz cocktail glasses now (I don't have measurements for that, but it appears to be the shape and rough height of the glasses, and the "3 oz" size is promising, since that is exactly the size of my glasses.) The downside if I am right is that I can't seem to find any other like it!

 

Hi. Although you posted this a year ago, I have only just come across it when I googled Waterford Lismore glasses.
I have some identical glasses to the one in your photos. They were bought from Peter Jones in Sloane Square (part of John Lewis) in 1973 and were sold as Waterford Lismore design. I am now told that they are not Waterford as they do not have the name etched on the glass. The stems of the glasses are the same as yours - 6 sided - but now they are round. Wedgewood, who now own Waterford, do not know when the shape of the stem changed.
Did you find out any more about your glasses? If so, I would be very interested to know please. Also, are you still looking for replacements?

 

Welcome to the site, pmf. Thanks for the additional info. (I'm not sure that alex473 is still a member of the group.)