Transferware pattern ID

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  1. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  2. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    Good work, SIS! Well found!
     
  3. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    Oh WOW! Thanks so much!!!! I greatly appreciate the help!! That definitely is the poppy one! I don't think I could have ever tracked this down myself!! Thanks again!!! :D :D :D
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Bit late, but yeah, field poppies.
     
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  5. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    Thanks so much again. I was able to purchase that teapot...even though it's not the same color as the shard it doesn't matter to me as it seems so hard to find and hard to even find out what it was. I greatly appreciate the help!! From what I read that company went out of business in 1896 so I felt my chances of finding another piece are slim. I hope I do find others but at least I'll have that one!
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    LOL, well glad you were able to get it! I've been known to identify a pattern or type from a sherd, buy an example and then buy a book about it:D
     
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  7. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    Sounds like me at times :). I'm still hunting for the original one I posted and I think it may have been the top of a pitcher. I've come across a few different shaped ones on the top portion that I think would fit the way the two pieces are. Maybe I'll find more pieces when I go back to the dump but I found those early one and have dug in that same spot and haven't seen another one again. I did find a good deal of Dunn Bennett Imperial pattern. I found part of what seems to be a big wide cup. Its strange as I've not seen anything like it before. It's 4" wide at the base and 3-1/4 high. It gets wider as it gets to the top. Have you ever seen anything like this? Thankfully this was a piece that had the mark on it so I was able to determine the pattern name and maker of all the other matching shards I found. I found several handled tea cups and a creamer in this pattern at this dump
     

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  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I don't think it is a cup.
    My first reaction was a butter tub, but haven't been able to find a butter tub that doesn't have an inset lid.

    I did find this, and the measurements seem to match. I'm posting it as I think this is the shape and type of lid yours probably had.
    I'm questioning their time frame, price and whether it is truly old. I don't like the Made in England - looks newer to me.

    I also don't know that yours was a cigarette holder. Again - I'm only showing this for shape and lid style

    https://www.rubylane.com/item/441414-AMT2713/Ceramic-Navrati-Ex78tra-Tobacco-Box78
     
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  9. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    Thank you very much for the reply! It is very similar in shape/size. I agree too with that listing that the piece doesn't look that old and a high price for something that may not be. I wonder if they made a cigar holder back then as well but that piece does seem to pretty much match up with the piece I found. I wish there were old catalogs that this company made still around but I haven't been able to find any ...online at least.
     
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  11. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    Thanks....I'd looked it up a few months ago but on the potteries.org site and found out it was pretty old which I suspected given how it looked and the other things I found there. I think that it is a butter crock like @clutteredcloset49 said. I looked that up and found several that were shaped like the piece I have where it gets bigger at the top.. spays out I guess you'd say? I can see where an inset lid would work as she stated since as the piece gets narrower as it goes down....that way a lid wouldn't need a lip/edge and would just rest when it hits the circumference of it
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The number shown in that listing is only 5 digits long. No way it's 1914. It's actually registered in 1886.
     
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  13. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    I thought it was in the mid to late 1880's when I looked it up a couple months ago and again goes along with everything I've found in this particular dump. I'd also found this and if I read correctly it's about the same time period as all the other pieces? This is another one I can't find any other pieces listed anywhere except something on Worthpoint of a bud vase. It's the most complete piece I've found so far there. I did find other shards that don't fit this piece so I know there were others in this pattern IMG_8244.jpg IMG_8245.jpg
     
  14. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry. I can't see the numbers on this one.
     
  15. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    There’s an 11 over a 0 carved into the dish and a 3 painted on
     
  16. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Those are not registration numbers. Are there any numbers in the blue printing that cuts across the bow?
     
  17. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    No there’s no numbers
     
  18. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Ah, now I see the first part says Ridgways? and then Stoke on Trent?

    If you haven't searched by Ridgways, you should.
     
  19. GingerSnaps

    GingerSnaps Member

    Yes ... just says the "Stoke-on-Trent". I’d done some searching on it when I first found that piece last fall and didn't find anything in that pattern except the one on worthpoint. I've looked from time to time for it again and haven't seen it. The potteries site says that marking dates it to c.1885-1890. It's pretty old and dates with all the other things I've found. I really like the pattern on it and glad it's almost complete! :D
     
  20. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    The main flower motif in the first pattern resembles that in a wallpaper design, c1874, called "Trellis Dado", by Lewis Foreman Day:
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