Cameo Signature Help Needed

Or he revived the form of the name being used in 1840 by the inventive nacrier. I do have to think it is all the same family.

 

This has to have gone on, but of course is another facet of the trade that is not much officially acknowledged. Giovanna Di Rosa writes about it here in connection with cameos signed G. Noto:

https://antiquecameos.net/cameos/paris-and-helen-by-giovanni-noto-944010624

I sometimes see pieces where I think not all parts demonstrate equal skill & have wondered whether some of it is apprentice work. Sometimes it has been recorded, when a student has become as prominent as the master, who has studied with whom, such as Michelini with Girometti. Gifted young engravers, such as Pistrucci, were likely to have set up on their own when their work was being signed by a less accomplished master. There have been families - Pichler, Saulini, Verge (maybe Lamant) - in which older members trained younger, presumably doing some work together when the younger became good enough. I have one of those hardstone noblewoman type pieces with a whole assortment of initials & numbers on the back, nearly all of them crossed out, which I take to be evidence of a workshop process involving a number of artisans in addition to a master.

When someone's work never attained a very high degree of skill, e.g., 'Silz'/Schmoll, it seems unlikely they were running a whole workshop. Also, Schmoll & many others, Michelini is again an example, cut cameos in addition to running a shop where an assortment of things were sold, limiting how much time & effort they could devote to producing cameos & perfecting their skills.

I can't imagine putting my name on this if I had cut it, much less if I had not:

 

Yeah, I'm still pretty much lost on the whole Lamant issue, so I'm going to just keep throwing out stuff I find and you see if you can make sense of it.

FWIW, I'm don't think the cursive one even says "lamant/lamont" (haven't decided what it does say).

I do suspect that Lamant-Juiliot had some issues with the business end of things.

 

Since Richardson is going to discharge the debts, could be that Lamant Juliot died. Can I have the link, if you can find it again? I always want to be able to find the originals again. Love the name Dimbleby.

If not Lamant, then...? I can't make it into Laurent, & we know there were more than 1 cameo cutter with this name.

Just spotted this one:

 

"Something" supply????

 

Guess you're repaying me for putting up all this confusing stuff. Now I'm the one who's confused. Huh?

 

Sorry, not a public record, no link to offer. It was published in multiple papers, I'll get a name.

I don't know. It's just that the second "a" is so "not a".



Now I want a better picture of the there graces one.

 

Sorry, MY bad.........this comment was referencing what @Jivvy posted back on page 5:

 

Oh, that one turned out to be Otto Supe. Some dude's name.

 

I thought it would turn up for me just by searching for the names together, but nope.

It's true that to support a reading of Lamant, I'm making the assumption that when it was not attached to a letter in front of it, he made his lower case 'a' differently than when it occurred in the middle in the word, when he didn't close it up.

They would accommodate you, but of course then you would have to tip them off that it is signed. I was going to, because I know them, & may still do, but the price is appropriate as is. Think they might jump it up as a signed piece. It's not really a buy I would recommend, but thought I'd give people here a chance before spilling the beans.

 

I don't think that link is going where you intended (it's a different three graces cameo).

 

Too late to correct the original post, so try this one. It's the same seller.

 

No, because then people like me wouldn't pay for subscriptions to three different newspaper archives.

The 18 March 1865 article is from Aris's Birmingham Gazette.

 

Guess you still have electricity. So do I, but trying to figure whether current power outages are going to affect where I need to go and/or how I get there.

 

Ooh Bronwen! I heard that info on my radio this morning and thought of you...
Hoping it is now fixed
Here are the articles I found about it:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...ty-coned-subway-electricity-a9003966.html?amp

 

Heard (on the BBC) that power was restored just before midnight. I have to travel to Queens this afternoon & route takes me right through subway stations that were in the blackout, so really glad they got it sorted fairly quickly. What I couldn't understand was why there was absolutely no information about service disruptions on the transit system's own web sites, even though they have one for emergency service advisories. It just said the site was not in use at that time. Maybe their office was blacked out!

 

I have absolutely no idea what this scene is about. Mercury/Hermes & Cupid/Eros hovering over 3 females who do not appear to be the Graces or other goddesses, each bearing a basket with some kind of produce. But it is now mine, all mine. Seller did note that it says 1848 on the back. That's not all.

 

It's from the non-cursive Lamant! Congrats!

 

The other is the one you curse?

 

If it weren't for weather services, we wouldn't have even known there was a storm.

We got one pretty severe band and thought we were in for it, but after that nothing.

Given our infrastructure is still in recovery from last year's storm, we're feeling pretty relieved.

Speaking of the other one:

1. is there only the one cursive "Lamant"? (and perhaps the current three graces one)
2. do we have a picture of the front? and if so, can it be posted here?

ALSO: I'm asking the seller of the three graces for a new pic.