Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Wow, that is different!
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    a bull whip...........so he's a bull dawg..:playful:
     
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    She is certainly Arethusa-ish. Or Persephone-ish. Sans dolphins it could go either way.

    I didn't know until I had it. No mention in description; didn't show up in their photos. They didn't know enough to figure out how all the findings worked, probably never routinely looked for signatures. When I think about it, they should have paid me for the lesson!
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    One hopes they did, in that they would have been able to charge more for the cameo if they'd included the info!
     
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  5. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    About a year ago, I posted about this Etsy seller who was making reproduction Victorian jewelry. She has gotten more sophisticated and I wanted to share one of the "cameos" in her shop. I just wanted to warn people, but it could easily seem real from the pictures. She doesn't explicitly say her items are reproductions in the title, but clearly says so in the written description. She has lots of reproduction items in her shop- cameos, mourning jewelry and now even tortoise shell pique jewelry and hair combs. She doesn't mark her items as reproductions, although I have suggested it to her. She is using a C clasp on the back, but not a T pin stem. I could see how people could easily be duped into thinking these items were real antiques, especially the mourning jewelry, once it is re-sold.

    Another Etsy seller does something similar with lover's eye jewelry and portrait miniatures- she uses antique settings and places her own paintings within them. They look very real. She doesn't mark them in any way.
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  6. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Wow, it is a scum, I did not know such sellers exist, aren't they punished somehow for cheating the clients?! Customer protection in case of dispute with the seller? Or the client should take cares of themselves on their own?
    I can live with sellers that do not do thorough research and are unable to properly ID pieces ( it can happen) but here this is done on purpose with the clear intention to mislead clients.
     
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  7. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    The seller clearly says her pieces are created with resin from molds taken on her own antique pieces.

    The price reflect that. Of course, her clients must read the description...

    Real problem will be when some buyers will put them back onto the market as genuine antiques:(
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    same problem can be found with NWC 1st nations carvings....:(:inpain:
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Therein lies the rub, the secondary market. I have long wondered whether the same held true for all those very convincing fakes I have labeled 'Danbiere' for lack of the real manufacturer's name: when they were first sold, did buyer's know perfectly well they were buying high quality fakes & pay commensurate prices?. Is it only now that sellers, including auction houses, think they are looking at genuine marble & bronze?
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    once it's out there....stopping it is like trying to herd cats..
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Or smoke. The misinformation spreads everywhere.
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Or wishful thinking. Not much you can do about that.
     
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  13. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I like the idea of making costume cameo jewelry, that isn't just ponytail girl, more accessible in price point but she needs to put a "Reproduction by (Artist)" mark in her molds. It's free advertising for her at least.
     
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  14. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    I agree. That's why I suggested that she add a label or impression on the back of her work. It would give her credit and clearly identify it as a reproduction. She says she sells primarily to historical reenacters, but her items could still be resold on a secondary market.
     
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  15. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I don't understand her reasoning. Historical renactors are surely a group that would be most likely to "upgrade" to actual historic pieces and then sell off old ones? And if they're out in a group, getting compliments on their accessories, then having the name on the back close at hand to recommend it is better than a business card!

    I guess sometimes people don't think off these things and don't like others to point them out.
     
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  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Not if they're being worn "in the field". You'd keep your good stuff at home and wear the repros somewhere they might get lost or damaged.
     
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  17. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Now I'm curious what Lady Victorian renactors are getting up to "in the field" to be so rough! ;) I just assumed they'd want their fancy duds to be seen by others who appreciate them.
     
  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Just noticed the item she bills as Venus & Cupid brooch is actually Thorvaldsen's Day.
     
  19. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I didn't pay attention that she puts it in the description. And then, as ladies pointed out, it can be mistaken if unmarked as repro and bought online at the secondary market.
    Actually, there are sellers on ebay selling cheap repro photos of stars made from the originals in their own archives. Indicated as repros, made in poster size on quality paper in unlimited quantities upon request, sold for 5-10 usd each. I guess, good business.
     
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  20. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    Honey, something has come between us. Screenshot_20230121-104530_eBay.jpg
     
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