Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

    I’ve seen that second brown one EVERYWHERE. In different shades of brown and different lighting but I’m positive it’s the same design.

    The white one I showed was $225 in pinchbeck but at least I haven’t seen it anywhere else...
     
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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It is everywhere, which is why it astounds me sellers can mistake it for hand carved anything.
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  4. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This is meerschaum/pipe clay:

    19 cent Victorian HIGH RELIEF LAVA Carved CAMEO Girl Lady Bubble Glass Frame Wow

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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Because it is being sold by a jeweller & has high karat gold around it. Doubt the melt value of the gold comes anywhere close, not much workmanship & no artistry in the mount, mediocre cameo in otherwise valueless material. [shakes head emoji]
     
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  7. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    From a photo, how do you tell the difference between meerschaum and lava? Or is it the protective bubble glass that's the clue?
     
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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    OK, everybody, what is this really?

    Beauiful Victorian Italian Natural Red Coral Carved Lava Antique Cameo Pendant

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  9. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    If I'm right, the answer is in the second photo. :woot:
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Not even half right:

    Vintage LAVA Cameo Full Face Set on Agate

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  11. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

    No idea. The back looks like porous stone so I’d be inclined to believe at least the foundation is lava if not the carving itself.

    Educate me! *Eagerly waits for right answers*
     
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  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    You mean cuz they left "butt ugly" out of the title?
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Yes, the conclusive evidence, although I suspected as soon as I saw it. The most elaborate setting I have seen for one of these. Interesting question of value. The material has no monetary value in itself; the workmanship was mainly in the mold. Yet these are much rarer than lava cameos. Analogous to baseball cards in intrinsic value & manufacture. Should these cameos be seen as more valuable based on rarity?
     
  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I was ready to accept the agate background, because I have seen that done, then noticed the beveled edge & confirmed my suspicion immediately by taking a look at the back.
     
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  16. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    More valuable than a good 75% of the cameos on ebay (even after eliminating all the plastic ones)? I think so.

    But I don't suppose that's saying a lot. :hilarious:

    I find myself drawn to them because when my parents were first married, they lived on a piece of property with caves and used to do guided tours (they were the "caretakers" of sort)... they were in a completely different state by the time I was born, but the cave thing was big in family lore.

    But then again, I wouldn't buy something I'd be afraid to wear, so I'll continue just looking at the pictures.:joyful:

    This is my grandma:

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  17. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Same one as the one at the head of the article on Hebe at CameoTimes, I think:

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    @Jivvy Is this for sale on RL by a shop called Nectar?
     
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  19. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Pinterest -- so, zero info.

    I was in the midst of writing back to @Aquitaine that there was surely someone on these boards who had a better photo of this piece and who would know more (I'd been on the Hebe page fairly recently) when your message posted.

    From the angle of your photo, the eagle is much less hat-like. :joyful:
     
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  20. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Oohh, petrifying spring water did the job!
    Of course, Jivvy pic helped to confirm my thoughts;)
    We have in France lots of framed religious and decorative 19th century pictures made from that material.
    Edit to add:
    Just saw @Bronwen link to dripstone...:shy::facepalm:
     
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