Featured Rindskopf? .... for resale?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by verybrad, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I am pretty sure this is Rindskopf but would appreciate a confirmation. I have the opportunity to buy this for $75.00 or maybe less if I negotiate. I know it is a good deal but I am looking at it for resale and a reasonably fast turn within a couple weeks. I would hope to double my money but a bit smaller return would be acceptable. This means I would probably need to list it on ebay and I know the market is pretty soft there. Is it worth the gamble?

    I would just buy it for future profit but know I can not sell it in my store and my other option is ebay. Ebay has really been performing poorly for me lately and I just am not sure that anything is worth tying money up in if I have to depend on ebay for a sale. I know that I just gave myself the answer there but would appreciate other opinions. In other times this would be a no-brainer but I find myself second-guessing more and more.

    This is the only pic I have and I do not have dimensions. I do know it is unmarked. Having seen this vase in the past, I would think at least 12", though I think there is an even larger version.

    rindskopf.jpg

    Here is the best sold comparable I could find. It is from April. It is a nice vase but only 8". I would have been somewhat disappointed in that price were it mine.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rin...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    Here are all completed listings for Rindskopf. As you can see, nothing is selling very well.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=rindskopf&rt=nc
     
  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    There are too many knock-offs for it to sell well online today
     
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  3. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

  4. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the comparable. That does seem to be the same vase, though arguably more desirable in execution. I like the fact that the sale was just 8 days ago. How did you find out the best offer price?
     
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  5. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    I was browsing by price highest first and the listing fell in between a few other items at the $250 price point.
     
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  6. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Lovely vase. I suspect some of the sale price issues are because the casual collector tends to go for better known names, like Loetz. But even that doesn't get what it once did. It's a style thing, which is maddening. Having said that, yours is a bit funky and unusual.
     
  8. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    eBay keeps playing with hiding the accepted best offer. Right now it "seems" to be identified as the 'content=US $' in the source code. I've checked a few BO auctions and it appears to be correct (but I'm not absolutely certain). If someone here has had a Best Offer accepted you might check and verify.

    First go to the original auction page. Then open the source code (under view tab in IE). Find (ctrl f) the following text string: content="US $
    to the right of the $ (dollar sign) is the price for what looks like the Best Offer accepted to me.
     
  9. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I do what Kronos mentioned... by looking at sold items in highest priced order, you can get a rough idea of what the actual B.O. price was. It orders the items based on sold price, not asking price, for B.O. items.

    But it doesn't give you an exact amount, and isn't helpful if there's a big range between the next highest and next lowest priced items.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2015
  10. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    that doesn't seem to work for me, as when I looks at sold pricing with highest first the numbers with strikethroughs for accepted best offer just fall in line by the original BIN price.
     
  11. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Hmm, interesting... maybe it depends on which browser is being used? I usually use Firefox on a PC.
     
  12. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Encouraged by the similar vase Kronos posted, I went ahead and purchased this. Was able to get it for $60.00 so don't think I can go too wrong. I don't have it yet but got some more information and a condition report before buying over the phone. It is just shy of 13" tall and has a rough pontil mark so is very similar in characteristics to the one Kronos found.
     
  13. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Brad, I'm not really getting a Rindskopf vibe from this piece. I hope you dont mind but I took the liberty of posting this to another board. If I hear anything I'll let you know.
     
  14. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    @verybrad

    When you get it in hand, can you get a picture of the bottom for me?
     
  15. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I have not been able to confirm this either. I have seen this attributed to Rindskopf but I do not know if this is true or not. The coloration and surface look very similar to this known example of Rindskopf but this is about as close as I can come to confirmation. There is a different known example of a Rindskoppf fan vase but I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

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    Here is another.....
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    I am going to get this Thursday but won't be back home til Tues. of next week to get a pic of the bottom for you. I am happy to do this and appreciate the help. In the meantime, maybe posting some pics of the other similar vase from the ebay listing Kronos found would be helpful.
     
  16. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Brad,

    Go over the bottom with a fine tooth comb for a signature. So far the consensus is that it is not Rindskopf, but more likely a studio piece.
     
  17. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Picked up the vase today and it really looks better than the pic. The bottom has a pretty deep indentation and a rough pontil mark. It is unsigned. I won't be able to get pics til next Monday evening or Tues. I am coming to the conclusion that it is not Rindskopf but don't know who did it.

    I find a fair amount of nice unsigned art glass around here since the university of Illinois has a glass blowing program. To my knowledge, they don't have the ability to do these iridescent pieces. No other local studios have the ability and I have not found others. Most modern studios that do this type of work sign them. There was a guy in WI that used to work for Charles Lotton that cranked out some unsigned pieces but this does not look like his work. This may remain a mystery.
     
  18. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Brad,

    Thanks for the update. On the board I posted it, a few folks have some ideas but are holding judgement until they see a bottom pic.
     
  19. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Finally got home and took some pics.
    fanvase.jpg
    fanvase2.jpg
    fanvase4.jpg
    fanvase3.jpg
     
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  20. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Brad,

    I'll post these to the other board and see what they have to say
     
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