Cameo Signature Help Needed

@Jivvy Let's throw it out for anyone who cares to opine.




The first one is not by the same hand as the others, but is it the same surname? My best guess at #1 is S. Monti.

 

That would be fun. (For those who took German in high school, 'mouche' is French for 'fly', the insect.) However, I can find enough ups & downs in all the signatures to make 'ou' or 'oc', but not enough to make 'ouc'.

The cameo that goes with the first signature is one of those 'woman standing in country scene' ones & is no doubt Italian. The cameos that go with the other signature may well have been made in France, although of course this does not rule out an Italian name.

'Mouhe' is not outside the realm of possibility for the second one:

https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/35/?name=_Mouhe&name_x=1_1

 

A new one. The 18 I got. The rest of it? C. ____?

 

Putting them together changes everything.

The first one looks like a left hander.

 

Didn't see the new one when I posted. I'll have to be on a bigger screen to look at that one.

 

Interesting observation. That S could belong to Schmoll, just not the rest of it.

 

It, so badly, wants to be the same as the other three.

In my head, there's a drunken workshop scene where someone says, "betcha can't so do one left-handed."

 

Starting to think they were all doctors & cameos just a hobby. Maybe the good ones were surgeons.

 

In case it helps:

 

Thanks, it does make it even clearer. My eyes can see it; my brain is not turning what my eyes see into anything that makes sense. (Not sharing my ideas so as not to contaminate the thinking of others.) We learned from Schmoll that the decisive down stroke at the end apt to be more like an underscore than part of a letter. So far, the only way I see something pronounceable is if this one made his lower case Rs the way Reverchon made his.

 

sure looks like Jivvy to me

 

I have a name that works if I squint.

Also have a 1920 "jeweler" with that name and with the correct first initial. But I can't sort out his "industry" ... the column with the "w" means he's a "wage worker" and not an employer, so not his shop.

Anyone recognize the "industry"?

(edit: let me add the image, doh!)

 

Jeweler?

Sorry, not what you're asking, is it?

 

Nope, that's his "trade" -- it's the next column that's "industry".

edit: keep in mind, not all census takers were good (or well-trained) at their jobs. No telling how some of them interpreted what was to go in the columns.

 

Wonder if it's the name of the shop proprietor & not a generic industry name. What's the code for working on own account? O?

 

For this census taker (there are some on the same page) "OA"

 

I just can't see anything but 'Otto' for the first word. See potential for first letter of second word to be 'G'. What industry that would employ a jeweller would resemble what's written on the form?

 

The transcriber read it as "Otts Supe"... I dunno.

But this guy... he worked in jewelry for long enough to warrant further research.

Is the piece in the US? Northern midwest? Not that it's definitive, just curious.

 

Seller is in Washington State.