Featured Bone with incised designs

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by Potteryplease, Dec 30, 2022.

  1. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I got this bone in a group of unorganized, unidentified ethnic items at auction.

    Is it bovine? Any ideas as to origin?

    Thanks as always!

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    [P.S. I made the two other pics attachments because they're maybe kinda disturbing...]
     

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  2. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    beautifully done,i don't find the pics disturbing (what kind of bone is it ?).
     
  3. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Not sure. Various bovine species would be my guess, but maybe it's not thick enough for a heavy, slow animal...
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    my guess is that bone is old, but I don't recognize the markings........

    @Any Jewelry , does this piece say anything to you ? :kiss:
    :)
     
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  5. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

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  6. smallaxe

    smallaxe Well-Known Member

    You are sure it's bone and not fired clay? Easier to tell in hand vs looking at photos.
     
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  7. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Yeah-- thanks for the thought. It's definitely bone.
     
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  8. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Maybe decorated to be a handle for a weapon or tool. No idea what culture this would be from. What was the origin of the other ethnic items it was with?
     
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  9. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    You need the right Archaeology Dept-thing's fine.
     
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  10. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    The other items I got at this auction were some SW pottery, a Shipibo bowl, Molas, a keris, some photography, "old Indo-Persian textiles"....

    So, no real pattern to follow!
     
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  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    As to what bone, my guess would be a tibia from a bovine or equine. The shape (particularly the triangular cross section on one end) looks like cow bones I get from the pet store to make awls out of. The thickness would depend, to some degree, on the age of the animal. But an archeologist trained in animal osteology could give a more definitive answer.

    https://russellboneatlas.wordpress.com/home/cow-bone-atlas-3/cow-tibia/

    https://russellboneatlas.wordpress.com/home/horse-bone-atlas/horse-tibia/

    I thought about it being a handle, but I don't see any evidence of it being attached to anything, or anything running through it. The condition looks archeological, but it is awfully clean, even in the pores.

    The chevron design is ancient, but without any other figures it is difficult to place stylistically. I can picture a bored Roman soldier sitting on Hadrian's wall, passing the time by embellishing a bone from supper.
     
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  12. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I love that picture! I think that's what I'm gonna (personally) go with...

    Thank you once again for your consideration.
     
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  13. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    I would sure like to see examples of such handiwork, if you'd be so inclined, 2MB...Thanks for considering my query!
     
  14. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Not too often something stumps everyone. Interesting thing. Does it look very old in person?
     
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  15. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Yeah it does look old, though certainly not 2000 years old, but I'll admit to being clueless there. It seems like there's an older patina that has somehow been damaged in places, revealing a lighter colored texture underneath. I'm not sure that that means anything... There's a bit of chalky, powdery, dusty residue on it.

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  16. Silverking53

    Silverking53 Member

    Very nice piece definitely looks like bone. I imagine it could be a decanter that once had a lid or a ceremonial drinking cup. Made intentionally to stand upright with a sealed off bottom. The carving is very fine and precise. Made a little more special than someone just passing time. It was made for a purpose Just my opinion.
     
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  17. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Interesting idea! I hadn't thought of that, and it's pretty gross. But who knows?
     
  18. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I make these for use in basketmaking, and occasionally sell to other basketmakers.
    awls.jpg
     
  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Awwwwl ......:playful:

    do u sign em?
     
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  20. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Those are really as fine as any ivory awl I've ever handled...very beautifully done!
    I can easily understand the shaping and finishing, 'tho probably it takes longer than I would estimate...but the selection of the raw(!) stock, and subsequent aging/curing/cleaning, in whichever order, is certainly as important in the quality and appearance of the final tool. If you're comfortable with sharing your processes, I would be most grateful...and if not, No Blame...Thank you for the pic, 2MB!
     
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