Featured Lalique glass vase. Any fix for this?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Lucille.b, Dec 30, 2022.

  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Purchase from last summer. Unbelievably hours into the sale, every dealer in town had gone through, I even walked by it several times as the bulk of the sale was inside. Was with $3 vases on an outdoor table.

    It has an issue, though. No chips luckily, it has what appears to be "glass sickness" in the bottom. I have tried a few things, but guessing no fix for this. Any ideas?

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is lovely, but as far as I know not much can be done. You may have read this already:

    "In the earliest stage of glass disease, it may be possible to wash the glass to remove the surface alkali. The Corning Museum of Glass recommends washing with tap water (tepid, not hot[18]) and a mild (non-ionic[18]) conservation detergent. This should be followed by rinsing with de-ionized or distilled water, and careful drying to remove moisture. Careful washing can remove surface deposits, restore the appearance of clearness to the glass, and help to slow further deterioration.[19][18] Ethanol has also been suggested for cleaning, particularly for glass beads, depending on the surrounding materials that may be affected.[9]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_disease
     
  3. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    So is this 'glass disease' something that will eventually eat thru the entire structure of the glass & create a hole ? Still,heck of a buy for $3 !
    I've seen 19th century bottles w/ this type of stain/patina/mineralization sell for lots of money (Lalique is of course different than an 1850's Whiskey Bottle-but,said bottle could sell for thousands).
    This is Just A Thought (just worth exploring)...To remove scale & stain an antique bottle aficionado will (very,very carefully) turn the bottle in a lapidary 'tumbler' filled with a gentle sand or some softer grain compound.The tumbler must be checked constantly to make sure it's not erasing any of the objects fine detailing.
    PS-Check w/ a high-end bottle dealer before even beginning to try this,but remember,some bottles go for tens of thousands of dollars at auction.Just a thought.
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think the 'sickness' in this vase is on the inside.
    But as you said, check with an expert first.
     
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  5. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    I never had any luck getting rid of sickness in glass, the only thing you can try is Bar Keepers Friend and use a soft brush to see if it will come off. I feel your pain.
     
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  6. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    There used to be a guy here in Central OH who could fix this but unfortunately, he moved to Washington state about 10 years ago. But you could ask around for a glass repair person or restorer. The guy here would fill the vase with some type of pebbles or beans or whatever and water and then put it on a machine that swirled it around for about two weeks. Basically the round beads scored away the glass sickness and your piece looks nearly new. I had him do an old bottle for me once and I was astonished at how it turned out. I miss him.
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    A bit like the idea bosko had, except on the inside.
     
  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    You can get this professionally fixed and it would be well worth doing. There's two methods. One is muriatic acid, the other is careful polishing with a Dremel and cerium oxide.
     
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  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The "disease" is etching; something ate into the glass. For three bucks I'd have hauled it off too! One thing people do sometimes is carefully rub a little oil into the base. It doesn't get rid of the etching, but does make it less noticeable. In this case I'd definitely consult an expert before doing anything. No point turning a thousand dollar vase into a $50 vase if you don't have to.
     
  10. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Good suggestion to see if there are any glass repair experts locally.

    Thank you all for the great suggestions. :)
     
  11. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Those solutions all sound darn intriguing and plausible,and there's got to be other Lalique Collectors who had the same problem.
     
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  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I know people in the UK who would fix it really well, but that's no help.
     
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  13. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure there used to be a glass restorer in Springfield, Ohio (if that helps). You can send your item to them if you approve their quote and agree to take responsibility for shipping it to them in one pieces.
     
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