Featured As with coins, I assume other collectables have grades and such.

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Devyn5150, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Devyn5150

    Devyn5150 Member

    i found out quick in Coin Talk that good photos are important along with the standard grading and errors. There must be that here too, right? New to it all in this sense.

    Anyways, how else would you need photos taken of the Mini John Barleycorn piece that I’ve attached to determine condition, varieties, rarities and such?

    This piece comes from my mother’s shelf... I’ve never really liked it but, finding out about it online this morning as I have, has been interesting.

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    I imagine that a lighted photo of the inside would be necessary, yes, making the next image almost unusable, yes?
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    Thinking of it, to scale, size would be required as well. I was going to photo this next to a normal sized BIC lighter but got sidetracked in thought, lol. This piece is shorter than a BIC.
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  3. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    Welcome Devyn5150 - your pictures are excellent and just what we like to see. Ideally exact measurements would help, but in this case comparison to a Bic lighter is sufficient. Bronwen has given you great information on how to proceed.
    Don
     
  4. Devyn5150

    Devyn5150 Member

    Yeah, this piece was easy to find unlike the others. Thank you for the info. I was mostly hoping that the photo examples were of a fair enough quality to proceed with in the future.
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Your photos are excellent. You can always augment them with your words. E.g., I couldn't entirely read the imprinted writing from the photo, but if you had added that it says Old Lad, it would have sufficed. Not all of us have a really accurate idea of the size of a BIC lighter (or did you mean pen?). Anyway, measurements, English & metric, always appreciated.
     
  6. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    WELCOME Devyn !!! ... Joy. :)
     
  7. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    With coins grading and errors is a US obsession not followed by the rest of the world.
    Antiques are not graded.
     
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  8. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that information Davey .. I thought EVERY collector in all countries were searching for coin errors .. The things one can learn here !!! ... Joy. :)
     
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  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Error coins are very scarce especially coming from world mints.
    At the US mint they don't pay attention to detail and that is why so many errors get out into circulation.
    The US has hardly changed its coinage or denominations in decades so collectors need something to differentiate their coin against a fellow collector even if it is the minutest microscopic change, like the Steps of the Monticello on a Jefferson Nickel.

    I really couldn't be bothered.:D
     
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  10. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

  11. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    Oh, it's not restricted to coins. We Americans actively seek trial glazes, seconds, experimentals, etc. all to get every possible variation of one pottery item. And don't get me started on $25,000+ one-of-a kind cookie jars. Not one of our more attractive features!;)
     
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  12. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    You need to research the mark.

    Can't remember exactly, but that capital "A" refers to a specific time period of Royal Doulton - thinking it is 1940s, but you need to double check.

    Nice pictures.
     
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  13. Devyn5150

    Devyn5150 Member

    This is all very true. The US mints seem to be more casual or aloof about their product than the Canadian mint. I do have mint errors coins from both countries but the American is more abundant. I’m not yet too involved with other foreign coin however, those oftentimes minutest differences are or can be valuable. I wish a dot would magically appear on my 1936 Canadian penny or my 1973’s would turn into large bust instead of small... or was that the other way round... lots to remember, lol
     
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  14. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

    I have to disagree with the notion that the US mint is "casual or lack of attention", its just the volume of product is so much more than other countries that have their own mints there is just by the numbers involved more opportunity for errors to slip out. Also the fact that the US mint also prints and produces moneys for many other countries. Just my humble opinion.:cigar::cigar::cigar:
     
  15. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    This is from 2000

    The Royal Canadian Mint, British Royal Mint, Pobjoy Mint, Franklin Mint, Royal Australian Mint, Valcambi Mint, Italian State Mint and others have one thing in common which is different from the U.S. Mint--each of them strikes coins under contract for foreign countries.

    The U.S. Mint last produced coins for a foreign country in 1984. Since that Time, our Mint has struck coins exclusively for the United States. This, in turn, paved the way for many foreign Mints to chase down these lucrative foreign coin contracts. The BRM is probably has the most foreign coin contracts of any of them.

    This is 2019
    The Royal Mint (RM) is the world's leading export mint, making coins and medals for an average of 60 countries every year.

    If they struck sloppy coins they would not get the contract.
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    when did the US Mint make Canadian pennies..?
     
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  17. EddieG

    EddieG Active Member

    Same with baseball cards.Sold my last lot of 50 cards for $10.
     
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  18. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    OP is posting from Canukia :D
     
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  19. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    Canada no longer has pennies .. went out of use a while back ... Joy.
     
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  20. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Canada mints coins for other countries, but I remember reading a while back that many Canadian stamps are printed in Rochester, N.Y.

    On the other hand, I believe New Zealand had an award winning stamp a while back that was printed in Canada.
     
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