Ivory Netsuke with Calligraphy - Translation?

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  1. Sam Wainford

    Sam Wainford Member

    Hi everyone!

    Can anyone help identify whether or not this Netsuke is ivory, or if it is old and possibly of value? Can anyone translate the calligraphy or even recognize what language it is?

    It is about 2-1/4 inches tall.
    netsuke-front-480.jpg netsuke-back-480.jpg netsuke-side-480.jpg
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Hello, Sam. Since netsuke are a Japanese art form, I would expect the language to be Japanese, even if the piece is a copy made in China. Your photos do not allow us to see the material well enough to form an opinion on what it is.
     
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  3. Sam Wainford

    Sam Wainford Member

    Thanks Bronwen. Sorry about that. The forum instructions said to use 480 by 640, so I reduced them. Here they are full size but cropped to reduce file size.

    netsuke-back-IMG_1378.jpg netsuke-front-IMG_1379.jpg netsuke-side-IMG_1380.jpg
     
  4. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Speaking of the Walking Dead...
     
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  5. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    @ Sam Wainford

    Go back to edit and click full image,a photo of the bottom might help also.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    On the basis of the pics......no artist siggy....and all that dark shading....
    I'm going with resin ......... not ivory...
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    We could definitely use a pic of the bottom. Right now, I agree with resin.
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  10. Sam Wainford

    Sam Wainford Member

    Yeah, you are probably right. Do you think I should try the hot needle test?
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Still looks like resin.
     
  12. Sam Wainford

    Sam Wainford Member

    The bottom has carved cross hatches on it and you cannot see the grain. Based on the consensus, seems like they may have been put there to look like the ivory lines. I will try to get a pic, but I don't think it will reveal much.

    With all the experts here, I have another ivory piece that I'll post in a new thread shortly --- with larger pics.

    Thanks!
     
  13. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    NO NO NO NO never use the hot needle test!!!!!! It has ruined so many items and people. If it is resin it can flare up and burn you it will always leave a black hole, tiny or large.
    greg
     
  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    No on the pin test! The guy's clothing is Japanese, and I'd say resin is likely. As for what it says ... dunno.
     
  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  16. Sam Wainford

    Sam Wainford Member

    Here's the bottom of the netsuke. It has what could be a signature I suppose. netsuke-bottom.jpg
     
  17. Sam Wainford

    Sam Wainford Member

    Update- I did post a pic of the bottom...
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Yeah, just more evidence for resin, probably made in China. They're brilliant at it. Let's see the other one when you're ready.
     
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