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No, not new.
And Soviet era jewellery is sought after, even now.

 

thank-you @Aznathalie

to me the mark you posted for 1993 looks like the mark on my bug

 

thank-you AJ that is a beautiful brooch you posted

 

Thank you.

 

Thanks, Nathalie! You mean Ф as фабрика?
So it is not letter З, but number 3. Makes much more sense. I don't see much sense in З zavod and after it Ф fabrika.

Maybe it is :3 ФЯ, year :3 and then Фабрика Янтаря ФЯ. Or Фабрика Сувениров -ФС??? You think it is after 1990 then?

I don't know if amber was processed in jewelry elsewhere except Kaliningrad and Riga in USSR but it might be so.

 

We need to find out what the last letter is.

 

Sure but how???

I see that after 1990 there are many amber factories and if the bug was made in 1993 then it can be any of them.

Is there a Soviet Ukranian factory for amber?

 

sorry, I can't get a better photo of the mark. Looking at it with a loupe, it is very hard to see the last mark but it looks like this mark @IvaPan posted above -
:3 ФЯ

thanks @IvaPan it looks like this mark you posted

 

Well, after a more careful look at the item sold on Etsy which is the same, it seems to me that the missing letter is P, which is the Cyrillic equivalent of R. Not Я but P. Unfortunately I have no idea which mark it is. It might well be the suggestion of Nathalie - Rostov (Ростов), the only problem is that I have never seen it being referred to other than Rostov-on-The-Don (Ростов на Дону). But maybe for the mark they have shortened the name.

Anyway, it is a beautiful Russian (if not USSR still very close assuming 1993 as the date on the mark) real amber brooch most probably with gold coating, so cxgirl, congratulations!

Nathalie, I mentioned the words "your Rostov" - I am not Russian, thank God! I think it is nowadays abusive to call someone "Russian", they have dwarfed themselves as a nation to the least possible human level, even below it, I'd call them "animals" but it would be abusive to animals. Those few Russians who are sane and have kept their normal human features, are ashamed of their nationality. And for a very good reason! My only Russian friend left (and I used to have some) is a young guy who left Moscow at the end of February and keeps talking about the dictatorship in Russia and the barbarian war it waged towards Ukraine. Just to clear the matter.

 

:3 ФР
Found! Example: 8 1998, we have: 3 1993. Kaliningrad amber factory . I'm used to vintage ЯК.

 

I just like the idea of amber in a bug instead of a bug in amber.

 

Wonderful!! Thank-you so much @IvaPan and @Aznathalie for taking the time to track down this information, it is much appreciated

lol @Bronwen

 

Nathalie, well done! Glad that you solved the riddle as now I can go to sleep peacefully.

Any, you were right as usual,, it is Kaliningrad

Not worth mentioning me, cxgirl, Nathalie is the one to thank, I did very little. Wish I could do more as people here help me a lot but unfortunately my abilities are limited and there are not many things I can contribute with. Guys, this is the truth, I am learning though and hope someday to be of more help.

 

overtime, you will grow to understand that we all contribute...
even wrong answers, and unsubstantiated opinions can and do lead to a correct conclusion .....

my error can sometimes provoke others to come up with a more correct and satisfactory opinion of fact.....then backed up by others who see the same thing !

we are more than the sum of our parts......and teamwork can and does yield a success .................. most often !

 

Iva, I understand your anger. We are all very upset and alarmed by the current situation, and you are so close to the war that devastates a neighbouring country. There have been many atrocities, committed by Russian military. It is infuriating.
But most Russian people are living under the same repression you used to know in Bulgaria. Their leader is a master manipulator who installs fear of the free world in their minds. They are misinformed, and even those who have more insight are usually afraid to speak out for fear of the consequences. Those who do are true heroes, risking their freedom and even their lives. But not everyone is a hero.
I am sorry you lost Russian friends over this. I can only hope that in time they will see what is really going on.

 

Any, it is true what you said but it is not the whole picture. They are not only misinformed but they have a distinct imperial way of thinking, it has been ingrained in their minds. It is evident even in dissidents like Brodsky and Solzhenitsin, and even in Navalny. It is evident also in my friends, they have shown it in many ways by small and mundane things, all of them telling me that I am inferior to them because I belong to an inferior nation. They are generally good people, clever and educated, so before the war I was just smiling and did not pay attention to it. Megalomania...But now I realize that it is extremely dangerous and a grave mistake not to pay attention to these small things as they are signs of much bigger things - which are now being manifested in Ukraine.
I am very fond of Russian culture and can say I know a lot about it, but their imperialism is getting unbearable for me under these circumstances.

Also many of my Greek friends have this megalomania because of ancient Greece but they are harmless. I can get along with the megalomania of any person as long as it is manifested only in words. But Russian imperialsm is gravely dangerous, it leads to killing and destruction of Ukrainians and to potential serious consequences for the whole world. So it should be taken seriously and crushed at any price. Like Hilter's.

And of course, there are also different Russians, like my young Moscow friend. And like Chulpan Hamatova and Maxim Galkin, and Anton Dolin, and Tinkov, and Hodorkovski, and Chichvarkin, and Ilya Yashin, and..... But they are too little in number and influence to have impact. And most of them left Russia.

 

I agree, that is part of the reason why we have the current situation, and it is very worrying. But that is also a result of isolation, as well as centuries old frustration over not feeling accepted by Central and Western Europe.
They want revenge, which is always wrong, and will backfire.

I noticed that with Greeks here and in Australia as well, and some Italians have it too. They forget that terms like Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome refer to a time long ago, not to their present day achievements.
It is also based on faulty historic records, and lack of real knowedge of what was going on outside their boundaries. Your own country, for instance, has a history that is just as impressive, as does Western Europe.
Beautiful culture and intellectual achievements from all over the world are there for anyone to see, but only if they are willing to take off their cultural blinkers.

 

@IvaPan, I second what komokwa said

thanks komokwa

 

I tend to disagree with this:

From the times of Peter I they have been accepted as equal big power in Europe. Of course, there were struggles among powers, with varying results but overall they were not isolated. Even during the times of USSR. Their problem is that they were much more powerful during USSR times and then their empire collapsed. There were reasons for this, objective reasons but they don't care, they just want it back. But the world is moving forward and it is not possible to turn the clock back. Their dictator is poorly educated and overestimates his own knowledge of history and not only, so the consequences are evident. It is a very long discussion and not in the right place here but IMHO the problem is not outside Russia, it is inside. It is like an old women chaser who cannot do it any more and kills women because they don't pay attention to him.

 

Absolutely!. There is history everywhere and every point of view can find historical arguments, but history should not serve as a basis for prejucice or justify aggression.
The difference with Russia is that Greeks and Italians do not send missiles and drop bombs on the ones who do not agree to admit their superiority

Thank you for acknowledging my country's history! Although here it is like with Greeks - instead of thinking how to make our present better, many people here focus on what was a 1000 years ago and take pride in it. "We may be poor and insignificant now but do you know how powerful we were centuries ago!" And so what?! Who cares?! We live now and should work to make our lives better now.