Featured Coalport plates F Crook Belgravia

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by KSW, Nov 17, 2022.

  1. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Following on from Houseful’s post about cups and saucers, I picked these small plates up yesterday. £2 for three of them so no worries if they are very common!
    Houseful, the centre motif is very similar to yours and looks to be a Coalport ‘thing’!
    I thought it would be easy to track down this pattern but have so far failed.
    c17cm across.
    I believe F.Crook Belgravia were retailers to the very wealthy. Is it likely this pattern was a special order or have I just not found it yet?!
    Thanks for looking :)
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  2. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Yes, I agree the motif does look like a Coalport thing. Good advice from OBB. Plates are lovely, I would have had to buy them too!
     
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  3. Neece

    Neece Active Member

    This isn't helpful, but I stumbled across it while taking a try at this one so I thought I'd mention it. This is an exhibit catalog that was actually for tea cups but it speaks of Coalport y1009 (the letter/numbers on your plate) being c. 1891, however, it references a different retailer.
    page 7
    https://pubhtml5.com/bxab/cpch/I_Catalogue02/

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  4. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Wondering when Coalport put "leadless glaze" on their back stamps. Yes, after 1891 when "England" was added. If there is a directory of Coalport pattern numbers then you could find out when that pattern was introduced. I think the pattern is older.
     
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  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That is indeed the post 1891 mark. Patterns were adapted and also commissioned, so it's entirely feasible this was done for the retailer.
     
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  6. Neece

    Neece Active Member

    According to this, they started marking in June of 1820 after winning an award for their leadless glaze.
     
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  7. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Yes it is as it links it to an approximate date. Thankyou @Neece
    I googled that and got precisely nowhere!

    For no good reason, I suspect with the Crook mark that this is the case. Commissioned by someone wealthy!.
    I’ll have a look. Thankyou for your research, I really appreciate you looking for me :)
     
  8. Rclinftl

    Rclinftl Well-Known Member

    I dont know if it was necessarily a custom order - some firms made deals with high end retailers that particular patterns would be exclusive to their stores - these 3 patterns only at Crooks - these 3 patterns only at Tiffany - etc... it was a way the retailer ensured that the customer would have to complete their sets at their stores... and also a way to elevate desirability - EXCLUSIVELY AT TIFFANY'S - I mean who doesn't want their china to have a Tiffanys hallmark beside the Coalport mark...
     
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  9. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Wish mine did! :hilarious:
    That makes sense though.
     
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  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Agreed, not for a customer but so the shop could have exclusive designs to them.
     
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