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  1. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Hi guys, I'm trying to research this gorgeous brooch which came in a bulk online auction of cheap jewelry. I'm pretty sure it's gold and amethyst, though it's unmarked. The clasp is not one I've seen before - perhaps a pre-cursor to the current style.

    I would love to have an idea of age, country of origin and what it is so I can research it further.

    Thanks in advance for your advice.
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  2. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The clasp looks like a sloppy replacement.
     
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  3. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Oh possibly as there's a bit of silverish metal to the side that I thought was a repair. thanks
     
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  4. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Is is possible to re-take your pictures.....and back away a bit?? They're quite blurry............Thanks!!
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it's very pretty...
     
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  6. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Yes I was thinking that myself, not sure why they are, I'll try again.
     
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  7. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Komokwa - I think so too.
     
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  8. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Sorry not sure they're much better ?!
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what it is. This type appeared in the early 20th century. If they were as unreliable when new as I find many of them these days, no wonder there was demand for a better design. Some of them you can hear & feel snap shut; they stay closed well. On some the mechanism moves freely up & down; these are liable to opening spontaneously, sometimes with unwanted consequences.

    Although not an extreme example of the form, brooches in this shape are said to have been inspired by Halley's comet, which made an appearance in 1910.

    It is a strongly built piece. I think you are correct that it is gold & amethyst. I sometimes see this paler color referred to as 'rose de France'.
     
  10. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much Bronwen, very interesting.
     
  11. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    @Dory64, That IS a lovely pin/brooch!! I ran it through a 'clarifying' filter, cleared it up a bit!! It also looks like it may be signed on the inside 'barrel' edge, right side of the MIDDLE image, but then also I see some printing on the LAST image, flat left side, I THINK (maybe numbers??). I can mark where if you need me to......I'm not POSITIVE as the filters on occasion will do a little distorting if I'm not very careful!!!! Have you tried cleaning it with a Q-tip and a little polish carefully yet?

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  12. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Wow - Aquitaine, where is that filter? I have Photo shop, but have never used it on phone photos. I can't see any signature or writing on it with a jewelers loupe but no I haven't tried cleaning it yet. Will give it a go and see what I can find. thanks heaps.
     
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  13. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I used Photoshop for some work (cropping, editing, etc) but have other filters from a company called TOPAZ where sometimes they can do an amazing job! But you do have to be careful with them or they will "over-process" an image too!!! It's all on my computer!!!:):happy: (Where I spend waay too much time!!!:joyful:)
     
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  14. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    You don't give the measurements, but given construction, with the two loops on upper section which may have tiny pearls dangles and the brooch system being a later installation (around 1910s), my bet is on a 1880s earring dangle!:)

    May have dangle from another round motif attached to the earring hook...

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    Once you lost one of the pair, this is a way to continue enjoying it:D
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, the style is 1880s, Aesthetic movement.
    It could have been an earring, although I am not entirely sure yet. Whatever its original purpose, it is lovely.

    The clasp is an early safety clasp, which came into use in the 1890s, so your thinking was correct.:) Since the jewel itself is older than the clasp, it is a replacement.
    These early safety clasps were handmade, and closing quality varied. Yours looks good though.
     
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  16. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    When I first saw this I thought it was far to big to be an earring - 3cm by 2cm but then I tried it and thought actually it could be!
     
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  17. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Thanks AJ, yes it is lovely and the clasp does seem to work well, stays closed as it should.
     
  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I looks like both the hinge and clasp were added later, and I'd guess it was converted when the owner lost one of her earrings. Then the C clasp quit on her.
     
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  19. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    I agree with Bronwen that this is a Halley's comet brooch. They came in many shapes and used a variety of stones. Screenshot_20221024-225359_DuckDuckGo.jpg
     
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  20. Dessert58

    Dessert58 Well-Known Member

    Ohhh I ve been on the lookout for one of those forever...surely a Halleys comet brooch!
     
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