Older bottles

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Lucille.b, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Hoping someone knows bottles. Thanks for taking a look. These were at a thrift yesterday, hard to see in the photo, but the taller brown bottle has "M. Shaughnessy & Co, St. Louis" on the side, found a bit about that one, might have some small value on Ebay. At 49 cents a piece, thought maybe I could learn something - happy to donate back if not too exciting.

    The two smaller (8.5") solid brown bottles have bubbles in the glass. One does not sit straight, ever so slightly round on the bottom.

    The remaining tall one, just under 12" is sort of a dark green color. Almost looks gray/black but when you hold to light, you can see green. No markings, The base has a circle pattern.

    Anything unusual in the group, or should I just donate the 3 unmarked ones back?
    disbottles1.jpg Thanks!
     
  2. loveyardsales

    loveyardsales New Member

    The bottom of bottles tell a lot about the age. Do they have a pontil on bottom? If they have a pontil they would be hand blown glass.
     
  3. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  4. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Lucille,
    JMHO Take the bottles back, nothing worth even researching.
    Sorry for the bad news. Hope someone comes along and corrects me.
    greg
     
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  5. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Lucile I had a dozen of those bottles and donated them to a friend of mine to use in his Western movie he is making.
     
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  6. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link, and no pontils. I think the lot is going back -- a $2 in total experiment. I might try the Shaughnessy bottle on Ebay, not sure that is even worth the trouble. There is a small one on currently BIN for $39, no takers, but unsold BIN's only tell you how much it isn't worth.

    Anyway, good to know -- get these back to the thrift!

    But it got me thinking about some other bottles. These were dug up at the dump by a former neighbor in the 1970's, he sold them at his estate sale. I'll post later today in a new post.
     
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  7. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    When I inherited my bottles from my late FIL,I thougt I had a gold mine. I still love to collect bottles and saved the ones that looked unusual. ;)
     
  8. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Here are a couple of my faves. I made the mistake last year of filling all my bottles with water to soak out the residue and placed on a bench. Well,we had a frost and about half of them burst. :( Maybe Greg can tell me if my Star Wine is junk? phpREL97rAM.jpg phpksbjp8AM.jpg
     
  9. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I've sold a few of the old embossed drug/pharmacy bottles that I occasionally buy if I don't recognize the name on it. The last one I sold went to a descendant of the pharmacy owner named on the bottle. I love it when things work out that way.
     
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  10. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Lucille, could you post a photo of the embossing on the marked one?
    I'd keep that one.
    They all appear to be circa 1890-1910.
    The 2 on the left are probably "malt" bottles, the right wine or beer.

    Shi, you just might have a winner there. West coast/California liquor bottles are HIGHLY sought.
    I don't know much about what's rare and what's not in the field being an east coaster, but a little research is called for on this one. Maybe it's common out there but It looks good to me.

    These are THE go to guys for west coast bottles.

    http://www.americanbottle.com/
     
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  11. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Thanks skeezx, I liked that bottle too much to add to my donation pile. Thanks for the link, I will check it out :) Again,thank you :)
     
  12. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    I searched high and low but cannot find my STAR WINE Co bottle :(
     
  13. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Did you try contacting the guys in the link? Like I say, they are the GO TO guys for western bottles. I am SURE they can tell you EXACTLY what you have there.
     
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  14. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    NO, I looked through their site. I didn't know I could contact them? I did see a contact email. Thanks

    OK,I emailed the info. and said I would send pics if interested ;)
     
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  15. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

  16. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Thanks :) I also signed up for the peiodicals too.:)
     
  17. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Oh well, I will keep looking for that ONE special bottle that I know has my name on it ;)

    Linda-
    There are two Star Wine bottles known. One is a rectangular shape and the other has a swirled neck. They are both clear. The rectangular example also says 32 OZ. on the front. Either way, they are both fairly scarce bottles but not real valuable. That's mainly because they aren't super old. There aren't a lot of bottles from L.A. that are super old but there are some and they are very highly sought after. They are both listed as being worth around $30. This is based on them being in perfect condition. The price can fluctuate depending on the buyer and when and where it is sold. There are some collectors of Los Angeles bottles and they are more likely to pay more than someone else. They were both made between 1903-10.
    I hope that helps.
    Jeff Wichmann
     
  18. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Send them a picture. Your bottle is not either of the bottles mentioned. #1 it's not clear. #2 it's older than that. 1880-1900. Don't give up yet. It's not going to be worth HUGE money even in the best circumstances but if it is in fact an unknown LA bottle, being in color, it might still be a couple hundred bucks. Maybe not, but don't quit yet.
     
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  19. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Linda,
    I am so excited for you. Finding an unknown bottle is so nerveracking. Way to go.:D
    greg
     
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  20. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Hi Greg,
    Beautiful weather eh?
     
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