old ceramic tiles info

hey folks

can anyone help with info on these old ceramic tiles.

the 1st one ive posted before, but has been liberated from its frame(looks older than i thought it was)

any help appreciated

 

How old did you think the first one was that you now think is older than that? My original impression - that it was done one-off (or at least very limited edition) to show some sailing club's "winner." Those clouds make me think 30's 50's.

The second one is shown upside down. The pink swags should be at the top, not the bottom.

 

thanks bakers

i thought it was could have been modern as the front is in such good condition

 

Ah, I see.

 

thanks inh great help, no nothing at all on tother one

 

Hi Charlie,
I hope you realize that your second tile is upside down.
greg

 

i do know, thanks greg

 

Here is an article about a sailboat that looks very much like yours that was involved with the RCC Royal Cruising Club. The problem is that the boat's name only has one T in Fidget https://liveicomgrshot.blob.core.windows.net/rccfiles/Uploadedpdfs/Logs/Mowlam, David.pdf

 

Second one is probably either Doulton Lambeth or Minton. I'm inclined to Doulton. Fireplace tile, 19th C.

Boat is an older tile which someone artworked - nicely - in the 30s.

 

brilliant info, many thanks, could be just a spelling mistake

 

i thought that might have been writing as well, but sadly just scratches

looks better the right way up though thanks !!

 

Both of your tiles are made by T&R Boote, Ltd. The first tile (boat) is newer, and less expensive, than your second, molded tile. The first tile is an green majolica blank wall tile..which was painted with its boat by a non-factory artist. The grip pattern of this tile indicates it is circa 1920s.

The second tile is an antique, circa 1905-1910, molded, majolica, polychrome, neo-classical revival design, tile, which was made for an English fireplace surround pattern. It is English COAL SOOT which has stained this tile, which spent most of its existence held in a cast iron tile frame, found on the cheeks of a typical English fireplace of the time. From the pattern of soot, and its design, this tile would have lived at the upper left, or right, top of the five tiles used to decorate each "cheek."

The soot can be removed, or mitigated, by chemical cleaning..and the verso made whiter and brighter. I see no trace of a registration stamp on its verso.

This is one of ten tiles in the original set it was part of, which would have been expensive for the time, due to its four colors. The central design tiles of this set could have featured more colors and would have been more ornate...thus the high original price.

 

Wow. That is brilliant

 

thanks for the great info, the first (boat)one is long gone, but the second one i still have, so much appreciated

 

i love reading old threads